1 00:00:10,730 --> 00:00:15,090 like she's this is my first one to come better very excited to be here 2 00:00:15,090 --> 00:00:21,270 so i really thank you very much to have as a my me myself and 3 00:00:21,270 --> 00:00:22,750 that apple of course michael 4 00:00:23,300 --> 00:00:29,250 i'm very happy to be here and i'm very happy to talk about my object 5 00:00:29,250 --> 00:00:36,200 reports this work come from my O P W work and that have thank you 6 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:41,520 very much especially can we see here she was be a she's been my name 7 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:47,020 my to tar and that's you have me and find my way we discover why 8 00:00:47,020 --> 00:00:51,200 i introduced this because i think this is very important note that we have to 9 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:56,100 keep in mind that we talked about this a be having of the representation so 10 00:00:56,100 --> 00:00:56,860 that start 11 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:08,130 so what is a new twenty a is coming to a new community 12 00:01:08,810 --> 00:01:13,690 and okay i have to say that this is the but first of all the 13 00:01:13,690 --> 00:01:17,640 sorry them the moment which and you want you have come for the first time 14 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:21,930 not care the door of in your community i would like to this thing that 15 00:01:21,930 --> 00:01:28,550 this work generally is more a focus on norm but the general about their outreach 16 00:01:28,550 --> 00:01:30,170 in class communities 17 00:01:30,820 --> 00:01:37,370 and yes what happened what the new when i when in your personal come you 18 00:01:37,370 --> 00:01:39,210 know in the last we at 19 00:01:40,020 --> 00:01:45,070 she is very difficult to spend without than because it depends on the person and 20 00:01:45,070 --> 00:01:51,510 it depends from the community and not everything is so easy it's a P a 21 00:01:51,510 --> 00:01:58,670 because of course every person what rights need to and if i have some question 22 00:01:58,670 --> 00:02:02,630 and needs some different some very different and 23 00:02:04,470 --> 00:02:06,190 answers to their questions 24 00:02:06,740 --> 00:02:12,670 so the first question is of course that the first question but when we as 25 00:02:12,670 --> 00:02:18,880 community we have to make by i would south to come is well in the 26 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,990 colour expect from a community 27 00:02:22,410 --> 00:02:27,490 and the second one is of course why he's coming here wise coming in your 28 00:02:27,490 --> 00:02:35,120 community this is very important because and we have to understand that and because every 29 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:41,790 volunteer as a different route he or she of course may need a different can 30 00:02:41,790 --> 00:02:48,640 it wait for profit to the community and in my brother these told com as 31 00:02:48,640 --> 00:02:54,280 a work on my dog you which i am there is explain in detail every 32 00:02:54,280 --> 00:03:01,860 kind of every types of newcomer and of all india some because there are some 33 00:03:01,860 --> 00:03:07,620 or some where are technical some personal i don't we so that's technical so we 34 00:03:07,620 --> 00:03:12,990 have to one understand what focus everything to be very what's coming 35 00:03:14,570 --> 00:03:18,570 so and you come in new newcomer i've sat what 36 00:03:19,290 --> 00:03:25,180 what he expects to what she expect is to be with comment a probably or 37 00:03:25,180 --> 00:03:27,490 they find is the gate 38 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:37,070 why because it's very difficult to join in the community and this of course the 39 00:03:38,510 --> 00:03:44,180 probably because newcomer try to of they come to boot but they don't know how 40 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:51,120 well there must be one of the problem and you come could be a face 41 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:56,620 one hit right you subtract to understand how the commuter works it to try to 42 00:03:56,620 --> 00:04:03,390 understand the tools the they were the work flow i it's not so immediately to 43 00:04:03,390 --> 00:04:09,300 understand because and if it comes from it for example i come from the from 44 00:04:09,300 --> 00:04:15,220 the community people to and there are some things that go similar something that is 45 00:04:15,220 --> 00:04:18,060 very different so probably well 46 00:04:18,810 --> 00:04:23,750 and you come a use when here at this is a guy a complex at 47 00:04:23,750 --> 00:04:24,330 the root 48 00:04:26,190 --> 00:04:32,110 well the most in from one of the most common mistakes that newcomers or of 49 00:04:32,110 --> 00:04:37,010 that person would like to contribute to and 50 00:04:38,180 --> 00:04:43,750 to a community me it is think that in a fast community is all the 51 00:04:43,750 --> 00:04:49,480 code that okay i see that probably because we may software at the core what 52 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,990 is the most important but it's not enough 53 00:04:53,380 --> 00:04:56,760 because in okay i think that yes 54 00:04:57,420 --> 00:04:58,410 they won't go 55 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:04,660 probably be wrong there are so many things to do and i think for example 56 00:05:04,660 --> 00:05:08,870 that the importance of the human part 57 00:05:09,810 --> 00:05:12,460 let's talk in that way is very important 58 00:05:13,060 --> 00:05:17,880 i come from the marketing i am i always work as a P R or 59 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:23,500 a so i mean speech and talk a route and i realise so many years 60 00:05:23,500 --> 00:05:29,050 i accepting work with able to in two thousand some so it's six yes 61 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:30,690 you 62 00:05:31,590 --> 00:05:37,900 and the what you discover is that in the fact that probably the most project 63 00:05:37,900 --> 00:05:43,210 at very good car there's a very good software by they nice personal would be 64 00:05:43,210 --> 00:05:48,890 able to talk to explain how will i know or you softer well known or 65 00:05:48,890 --> 00:05:55,440 what else could be very easy and very user friendly i feel from goes around 66 00:05:55,440 --> 00:06:01,560 and the czech to say okay let's try easy and people's face no is my 67 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:09,660 vehicle that depends only because sometime score their seismic lost one charters and 68 00:06:10,710 --> 00:06:15,990 their work will okay if you if we if we could be able to see 69 00:06:15,990 --> 00:06:21,460 and they on the first community from another glance what we could find the something 70 00:06:21,460 --> 00:06:26,890 like people who are i think but it's not so you know this is not 71 00:06:26,890 --> 00:06:36,630 this is not so told king translating the income france depressant in this is very 72 00:06:36,630 --> 00:06:42,290 important and translating is very important of course and drawing for example there are so 73 00:06:42,290 --> 00:06:48,380 many things that that's not technical but is very important to contribute to the community 74 00:06:48,380 --> 00:06:49,740 and we never forget these 75 00:06:50,990 --> 00:06:57,860 off of course the connecting the documentation work is very rich and very massive 76 00:06:58,630 --> 00:06:59,110 okay 77 00:06:59,920 --> 00:07:03,570 we have a other you come or i with the said well you want to 78 00:07:03,570 --> 00:07:05,980 do you should want to do okay 79 00:07:09,340 --> 00:07:11,550 these if i'm very interesting point 80 00:07:12,140 --> 00:07:13,160 that's your call 81 00:07:13,570 --> 00:07:14,170 trust 82 00:07:16,540 --> 00:07:21,730 okay now we the stars of five the story of newcomer want to come by 83 00:07:21,730 --> 00:07:25,860 let's tell the story on the opposite side from the community sites 84 00:07:26,580 --> 00:07:32,240 people who works in the in the product usually work very close each other they 85 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:38,390 need to trust each other they need to find they wait and then in the 86 00:07:38,390 --> 00:07:42,290 really work help them to create some special links 87 00:07:42,610 --> 00:07:48,360 and this is so this is very this is very nice because they help you 88 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,410 to make your coworker a sort of friendship 89 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:56,970 they are not probably not there or something to trough but land one you an 90 00:07:56,970 --> 00:08:01,640 income or use what you have no side of trust 91 00:08:02,370 --> 00:08:07,540 okay this is very this is a big problem because one they you one you 92 00:08:07,540 --> 00:08:11,980 come and you are right and you have attributed yes and you have you want 93 00:08:11,980 --> 00:08:17,690 to contribute you have you are reading this a high to be or discriminative but 94 00:08:17,690 --> 00:08:23,740 you can because nobody listens to you nobody trusts you this is a very for 95 00:08:23,740 --> 00:08:29,360 and we have to find a way to solve this problem because what happened is 96 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:34,230 of course you could happen is of course that a newcomer right has of manly 97 00:08:34,230 --> 00:08:40,520 a for many energy to be to the committee and if them find usefully probably 98 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:47,020 he was away simply and we don't we have to study i tried to do 99 00:08:47,020 --> 00:08:48,650 this one for example with the still 100 00:08:49,290 --> 00:08:54,030 to be in the most them all what the one with car with come or 101 00:08:54,030 --> 00:08:55,830 we could be because this very 102 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:03,790 so levels know we try to explain the problem to go on and the 103 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:11,570 to vocalise to two files we take what we will which is somewhat that we 104 00:09:11,570 --> 00:09:15,280 have to kind of target of course the target of the than you com 105 00:09:17,050 --> 00:09:21,080 the fact that they to come i would like to participate and the target for 106 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:21,840 the community 107 00:09:22,490 --> 00:09:28,940 sometimes this target was quite different at different and now we shall why and now 108 00:09:28,940 --> 00:09:32,440 i try to show you why now i think the best we could find a 109 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,800 way to make the these two target 110 00:09:36,610 --> 00:09:37,770 this is the greek 111 00:09:38,980 --> 00:09:40,950 do with me for the committee 112 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:43,320 okay 113 00:09:44,820 --> 00:09:50,510 i can i talk very much we them i reading very much around and they 114 00:09:50,510 --> 00:09:54,900 talk or that we can tinker we look you made a very special work also 115 00:09:54,900 --> 00:09:56,490 you made this or by 116 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:03,180 and he has for many people coming from many case how what keys if i 117 00:10:03,180 --> 00:10:10,560 am who make a are some a newcomer really in be inside the community 118 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,500 that cross or is that 119 00:10:14,850 --> 00:10:17,180 in this aspect model in which 120 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:24,570 a personal talk about the community of not more as the community now as we 121 00:10:24,570 --> 00:10:26,130 well can jump in 122 00:10:26,870 --> 00:10:28,300 because i know 123 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:35,620 the entire participation the and emotional what the special to the community is the first 124 00:10:35,620 --> 00:10:41,540 things to be in to feel like a newcomer be part of school and this 125 00:10:41,540 --> 00:10:46,710 is very important so well we could say that in the in this like moment 126 00:10:46,710 --> 00:10:53,420 which in of comparable so say about use community will our committee we this outreach 127 00:10:53,420 --> 00:10:54,500 what's just for 128 00:10:55,390 --> 00:10:58,410 and this of course it's a portable of with our first real 129 00:10:59,140 --> 00:11:03,180 well the problem the and you come has is introduce yourself 130 00:11:03,670 --> 00:11:09,980 in this part of on regarding of the of the second task that's really sad 131 00:11:09,980 --> 00:11:15,880 i think are trying to and show he scales and try to match his skills 132 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:20,730 we the to those of the community this is not very easy because for example 133 00:11:20,730 --> 00:11:25,180 i tell i tell you my story i are having in two thousand someone and 134 00:11:25,180 --> 00:11:32,840 i wrote to the pharmacy i might come from detector and the okay actually to 135 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:37,390 assortment are nice i am here i would like to participate and someone sees all 136 00:11:37,390 --> 00:11:42,730 and i am i slathered to this first so i was not very nice well 137 00:11:42,730 --> 00:11:50,500 in one some fans later D need in data community and need them spoke about 138 00:11:50,500 --> 00:11:56,060 something someone would deal with the newspapers and to yes with the with the trade 139 00:11:56,060 --> 00:12:02,410 magazine generally they had and they asked me they just me to do this and 140 00:12:02,410 --> 00:12:07,600 there are sources of course a huge amount of articles that we that we had 141 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:13,350 during this yes and this is this is very good because probably this is my 142 00:12:13,350 --> 00:12:17,900 way to be part of the community i find my way and i would like 143 00:12:17,900 --> 00:12:19,630 to help other person 144 00:12:19,790 --> 00:12:20,730 find their way 145 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:28,670 one of the problem we talk about the them important to find they await not 146 00:12:28,670 --> 00:12:30,100 a lot of the problem then you can 147 00:12:30,900 --> 00:12:37,200 is sometimes that a bit personal work inside the project usually use 148 00:12:37,390 --> 00:12:42,970 that sounds dramatic all channels like i see or so the S A P and 149 00:12:42,970 --> 00:12:46,300 that means that if you have to be done in that moment in this exact 150 00:12:46,300 --> 00:12:52,390 moment thing with the there is the set to debate or which and the team 151 00:12:52,390 --> 00:12:57,910 is talking about something and it could be not open possible so of course 152 00:12:57,970 --> 00:13:03,530 and the risk is that all database have not trace leave no trace and this 153 00:13:03,530 --> 00:13:08,180 is very this is not play shop of course because to want to be filled 154 00:13:08,180 --> 00:13:10,580 itself that cut off from the debate 155 00:13:11,650 --> 00:13:17,360 and so this is in this bring me testing that there are some special thanks 156 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:24,050 to do get that refuse road map should be very clear everywhere and everybody could 157 00:13:24,050 --> 00:13:27,660 be able to take a look on the weekly or whatever 158 00:13:28,090 --> 00:13:29,220 so 159 00:13:30,350 --> 00:13:35,480 and this is very important because of course if the document issues what every time 160 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:40,500 and a they could we avoid the risk for example to work in the project 161 00:13:40,500 --> 00:13:46,920 this going to be the protracted for example or on we have the opportunity to 162 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:53,400 find the we which part of the project is a dating or is most important 163 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:59,640 one all has a lack of volunteer because i think that of course every contribution 164 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:06,100 matters and we a new we need to avoid the risk of awards of work 165 00:14:06,100 --> 00:14:08,180 because this is not very fine 166 00:14:11,650 --> 00:14:16,120 okay i am the more about for you want to come of a few bones 167 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:21,800 to remote product and i think that we can talk about the participation that after 168 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:26,890 each we don't hear about i have to say that of course i am here 169 00:14:26,890 --> 00:14:33,000 thanks to who just need for this P B a P W program 170 00:14:33,750 --> 00:14:40,450 and i think this is very important to increase the part the fuel participation i 171 00:14:40,450 --> 00:14:44,900 okay this is a very good argument to so they wanted to take too much 172 00:14:44,900 --> 00:14:50,470 about this but i believe in this is important that they can consideration to that 173 00:14:50,470 --> 00:14:55,950 they can drink about this at the okay to keep an eye about this people 174 00:14:55,950 --> 00:14:58,600 participation because it's very important 175 00:14:59,110 --> 00:15:05,490 and i don't know how we are they are these dates i think and this 176 00:15:05,490 --> 00:15:06,830 these are about to 177 00:15:08,870 --> 00:15:11,000 maybe two years ago but 178 00:15:11,550 --> 00:15:13,030 probably they are 179 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:17,670 could be a little bit it's not very much we are similar we had five 180 00:15:17,670 --> 00:15:23,390 percent participation a unit you want a team approach which want two and a half 181 00:15:23,390 --> 00:15:26,460 and that now i one and a half generally false 182 00:15:28,260 --> 00:15:35,190 okay you we could ask why know well but probably we don't have to ask 183 00:15:35,190 --> 00:15:41,690 here what we what we what i want to say here is them generally one 184 00:15:41,690 --> 00:15:45,880 there are so we want that and try to work other we want the project 185 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:51,870 is just for this up and of course we you will project and this works 186 00:15:51,870 --> 00:15:54,760 of course in the old P W problem 187 00:15:55,310 --> 00:15:58,510 i need to these data from their press release 188 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:03,120 and the last yes for example that was the seventy percent of the weather what 189 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,640 special and fee model was people 190 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:12,430 and interest and by the fifty participants the fifty respondents the come from normal of 191 00:16:12,430 --> 00:16:19,690 what we want so we have been collected more we don't respondents than all the 192 00:16:19,690 --> 00:16:25,840 other up and project all together consider of together i think this week yourself and 193 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:26,580 these 194 00:16:27,580 --> 00:16:32,050 you should be really be pushing this is not the we have to be a 195 00:16:32,050 --> 00:16:35,410 to beep or should have to be really be known because 196 00:16:35,870 --> 00:16:38,130 i think this is will agree to work 197 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:43,870 okay now we talk about the problem that you talk about the solution 198 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,200 there is not of course the one single solution 199 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:55,210 but try to understand the how can we move to want to use this opportunity 200 00:16:55,210 --> 00:16:56,830 to increase the participation 201 00:16:57,410 --> 00:17:03,220 you can see of course an easy saturn incurable disease a generative learning curable just 202 00:17:03,220 --> 00:17:10,080 to have an idea what can talking and this learning to able and toast cast 203 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:11,930 something some very trusting 204 00:17:12,780 --> 00:17:16,850 the first think sees them in the and the first part of a file when 205 00:17:16,850 --> 00:17:19,790 you come matter i buy in 206 00:17:20,290 --> 00:17:21,580 there are then 207 00:17:22,660 --> 00:17:28,400 the problem he could face well she could face it's very real a and they 208 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,640 are very a very strong 209 00:17:31,150 --> 00:17:35,310 now win time for traffic this will we can also 210 00:17:35,650 --> 00:17:40,610 and by the second ticks that we have to remember is them at the proficient 211 00:17:40,610 --> 00:17:45,850 the rules to so we have the first be all this is the most important 212 00:17:45,850 --> 00:17:51,870 you which of people come and need to face some new challenge not long face 213 00:17:51,870 --> 00:17:52,450 challenge 214 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:57,640 and this is why we had to give them all the information because we have 215 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:58,790 to use 216 00:17:59,390 --> 00:18:03,590 the they will be there will to participate 217 00:18:04,210 --> 00:18:08,550 the some things that we have to remember is that one the newcomer a drive 218 00:18:08,550 --> 00:18:14,740 that he need sometimes we know how to works how to work on how the 219 00:18:14,740 --> 00:18:22,380 community works in the you would feel yes how that they can the team works 220 00:18:22,380 --> 00:18:28,090 i don't know how the how that's all the community as a sparse on works 221 00:18:28,580 --> 00:18:35,120 not a nice sometimes to learn how to do what's that community offer to works 222 00:18:35,120 --> 00:18:39,550 and this is very interesting because sometimes if you go around there and i went 223 00:18:39,550 --> 00:18:44,900 wrong there are so many people who say okay but relax quite easy not he 224 00:18:44,900 --> 00:18:50,820 has and then to hope so but trying to work ask i'm every tools could 225 00:18:50,820 --> 00:18:58,970 be very user friendly could be a in paris and we to make these learning 226 00:18:58,970 --> 00:19:03,860 a small so i of course to help newcomers to be in that we need 227 00:19:03,860 --> 00:19:04,860 to work 228 00:19:06,630 --> 00:19:13,290 second kings to take in consideration is the small the small tasks to do some 229 00:19:13,290 --> 00:19:15,740 small some progress task 230 00:19:16,290 --> 00:19:21,590 are you certainly think that one when you come are right and you buy you 231 00:19:21,590 --> 00:19:26,370 made one bite that you want to we all their all their all the apple 232 00:19:26,370 --> 00:19:26,960 of course 233 00:19:28,150 --> 00:19:33,240 and do we have to give to prepare some more past the sounds more by 234 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:34,190 for newcomer 235 00:19:34,750 --> 00:19:41,520 this is a very demanding process because i for example i am i am and 236 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:48,160 try to prepare some test some fast for the for their people working in the 237 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:52,850 in the P R team in italy and it's very demanding because some kind of 238 00:19:52,850 --> 00:19:56,350 say okay but i can do it the way have to prepare this for the 239 00:19:56,350 --> 00:19:56,800 person 240 00:19:57,170 --> 00:20:01,080 especially because we are or one T S so i what time is very precious 241 00:20:01,550 --> 00:20:06,570 but we have to prepare them and the this is if you remember when it's 242 00:20:06,570 --> 00:20:11,950 a that the target the community and the target of the newcomers sometimes we risk 243 00:20:11,950 --> 00:20:16,110 not to match okay we have to the biggest we have to prepare a small 244 00:20:16,110 --> 00:20:18,430 task at to prepare them properly 245 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:22,610 okay scott that 246 00:20:23,180 --> 00:20:29,830 of course that you know there is this week and this week problem this number 247 00:20:29,830 --> 00:20:34,280 of all about that small task forget to say sorry that we have to prepare 248 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:42,700 totally some tasks to do a problem to make they and the battery i was 249 00:20:42,700 --> 00:20:48,780 very properly because once this it's a way to professionals more task so let's talk 250 00:20:48,780 --> 00:20:50,180 about that we don't know 251 00:20:50,590 --> 00:20:55,090 i mean and this company's problem i think is a very interesting program is that's 252 00:20:55,090 --> 00:20:59,560 actually what i what it said prepare some that's for your comments about how much 253 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:00,630 more right but to find 254 00:21:01,120 --> 00:21:07,020 easy within the new tools and the and then you will feel i for to 255 00:21:07,020 --> 00:21:10,580 actually have to say that is not really we should it's not very you have 256 00:21:10,580 --> 00:21:11,530 not much really 257 00:21:11,910 --> 00:21:19,030 and not real no works to i really i dedicated I R C channel 258 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,080 and of course with somebody that task 259 00:21:22,690 --> 00:21:28,980 and i believe that you could be interesting to try to do more space to 260 00:21:28,980 --> 00:21:35,390 these this problem and that to make it more easy to find and one year 261 00:21:35,390 --> 00:21:41,930 i mean in the get involved with peach probably you can see above normal this 262 00:21:41,930 --> 00:21:46,760 year in the very bottom of the page so i i'm not a design of 263 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:51,890 course i'm not able to so i would like to draw something like that was 264 00:21:51,890 --> 00:21:57,170 she was really horrible but i think that probably try to make these small right 265 00:21:57,170 --> 00:22:00,810 the last to give to this program more relevant to be useful 266 00:22:02,110 --> 00:22:03,350 and other things to do 267 00:22:04,090 --> 00:22:10,600 a startup i'm sorry i was very happy to discover this started because they considered 268 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:16,420 and we have science so this is very easy to start with the stock 269 00:22:17,020 --> 00:22:20,520 i have to say that i'm very in and what special rights a by this 270 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:27,000 one because i was the one down some down a our be made from by 271 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:34,680 other with them that may there a whole P O P W sell eight was 272 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:40,060 quite nice because these could be a interesting we to me the matched the to 273 00:22:40,060 --> 00:22:44,150 match this target of the community with the with the target of the new com 274 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:52,300 is something very easy to write for the newcomers easy to make by the common 275 00:22:52,510 --> 00:22:56,270 and the and it get us some richness to the community 276 00:22:58,230 --> 00:23:03,970 i wanna probably if we use icons could be interesting we to made a bidding 277 00:23:03,970 --> 00:23:11,070 more readable so for example if you sure interesting and know in writing or eating 278 00:23:11,070 --> 00:23:17,970 drawing use icons could be it interesting to a to make a the task more 279 00:23:17,970 --> 00:23:20,430 visible i don't know is a proposal 280 00:23:22,690 --> 00:23:28,550 what i think this could be a really interesting is topeka wrong we are part 281 00:23:28,550 --> 00:23:34,040 of first community but there S many product or you know on and it would 282 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:39,700 be it because i know from where we would take a look and see how 283 00:23:39,700 --> 00:23:45,710 other than of the community try to able to make about are other volunteer be 284 00:23:45,710 --> 00:23:50,450 able but it be feel more about but in their project i think that could 285 00:23:50,450 --> 00:23:55,210 be interesting to take a look at to i want to see problem a ourself 286 00:23:55,210 --> 00:23:57,820 to whether communities well 287 00:23:58,690 --> 00:23:59,510 shower 288 00:24:00,390 --> 00:24:02,800 finally sharing is carrying so 289 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:10,000 okay i don't knowles be polite always before light 290 00:24:10,830 --> 00:24:17,530 and when we convert abbas he always very exporting sometimes and you always very demanding 291 00:24:17,530 --> 00:24:24,440 he has so much question you don't know how to do things a probably he 292 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,500 try to the world route to 293 00:24:28,060 --> 00:24:28,690 to make stuff 294 00:24:29,870 --> 00:24:35,800 of course it's not very easy and he's not very easy to deal with someone 295 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,810 who with just the right but i think about the we if we will want 296 00:24:39,810 --> 00:24:44,420 to be and i would come in community we have to be polite and be 297 00:24:44,420 --> 00:24:45,090 me passion 298 00:24:45,570 --> 00:24:46,190 but there's 299 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,280 this second this in but important to me of course 300 00:24:50,730 --> 00:24:58,730 speak simple an agenda and generate community what coming from but from a big part 301 00:24:58,730 --> 00:25:04,380 of the word so english could be the second thing what for money for many 302 00:25:04,380 --> 00:25:04,730 what it 303 00:25:05,550 --> 00:25:11,760 so to speak simple to be focus at certain start to speak a sparse ascii 304 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:17,170 as possible even when nice written in you know i see for example 305 00:25:17,590 --> 00:25:23,560 could be a nice way to hell there but people who is not in and 306 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:24,600 he's not many people 307 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:31,230 and yes and the right sometimes could be it easier because you can read and 308 00:25:31,230 --> 00:25:35,270 if you don't understand you can translate so and 309 00:25:35,770 --> 00:25:41,250 is there was a request from not make to promote remember clear interspeaker 310 00:25:43,540 --> 00:25:48,020 okay and now we are i to the most important point at which i want 311 00:25:48,020 --> 00:25:51,000 to focus my work them at the ship 312 00:25:53,050 --> 00:25:57,440 if you remember i told that i had that with mentor and i have here 313 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,060 is because i have such mentors 314 00:26:00,770 --> 00:26:05,060 and membership is but is the field to the most important things once i wanna 315 00:26:05,060 --> 00:26:11,360 ride in your community because mandatory is the person who can't explain to you how 316 00:26:11,360 --> 00:26:13,970 to commit to works with the mattress 317 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,460 teach you how the that to work 318 00:26:17,980 --> 00:26:20,820 and if you actually can give you a 319 00:26:21,950 --> 00:26:24,310 these that do you want a much 320 00:26:24,650 --> 00:26:29,230 that helps you to join the fee actually the set of trust 321 00:26:30,100 --> 00:26:34,960 this is very in very interesting and i have to say that generally known as 322 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:43,400 a huge and the very impressive a matter should problem and they have very much 323 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:48,300 because the sometimes you what when you see okay we need the guy the we 324 00:26:48,300 --> 00:26:54,660 need to compose we need the road map everything could meet we make the remote 325 00:26:54,660 --> 00:26:58,000 very much more easier we departed should be some of map 326 00:26:58,780 --> 00:27:03,710 i mentors of the future someone would like to listen to you which is able 327 00:27:03,710 --> 00:27:07,090 to prepare the disk for you is exactly what we need 328 00:27:07,700 --> 00:27:08,100 so 329 00:27:08,620 --> 00:27:15,520 i think that you could be very important and i think that it could be 330 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:21,700 quite interesting that's to do for not products of course well from for that that's 331 00:27:21,700 --> 00:27:27,370 on that and we got hours and then they want to do something different and 332 00:27:27,370 --> 00:27:32,190 we i would like to propose something you that you enjoyed i would like to 333 00:27:32,190 --> 00:27:38,540 propose a there and to create more strip to read not to should probably i 334 00:27:38,540 --> 00:27:41,350 should call them with in knowing school i don't 335 00:27:42,210 --> 00:27:48,680 i told i told in previously about the buttons to and to match they communicate 336 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,000 and the percentile goals 337 00:27:51,710 --> 00:28:00,410 i think that if we construct our assortment of ship we some courses their tactical 338 00:28:00,410 --> 00:28:06,330 or not technical we could have some personal who are prepared to work in the 339 00:28:06,330 --> 00:28:12,910 in the not word that works sorry in the can works we didn't know tools 340 00:28:12,910 --> 00:28:19,470 and this is could be very interesting because of we could offer something to 341 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,870 the person could be interesting participating 342 00:28:24,420 --> 00:28:31,280 and they could learn something and they could be grateful that the to the community 343 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:36,270 so we have some stuff name i of course and we have some part should 344 00:28:36,270 --> 00:28:43,300 some volunteer wound up prepare the to work directly on them stuff i think needed 345 00:28:43,300 --> 00:28:49,420 could be very interesting because this bring richness to the project is being a good 346 00:28:49,420 --> 00:28:52,550 and a good but here to the project 347 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:55,700 i don't know please 348 00:28:56,280 --> 00:29:01,450 ask of course to the volunteer i always see ask if you have some nice 349 00:29:01,450 --> 00:29:05,790 question if you don't know where you were going if you need something 350 00:29:06,510 --> 00:29:07,110 no 351 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:12,970 that's community we have to say that we have to be we need to listen 352 00:29:12,970 --> 00:29:17,580 so i would like to propose for example to make some sort by or to 353 00:29:17,580 --> 00:29:26,040 make a and a letterbox which we could gain sound some the question are you 354 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:32,470 comments cool make up or this and that's no new comments who can write because 355 00:29:32,470 --> 00:29:36,740 of course when the you are inside of community you can see what do without 356 00:29:36,740 --> 00:29:42,400 the problem that the new comments with place so if we but prepare some space 357 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,050 for these could be well 358 00:29:44,750 --> 00:29:45,740 could be interesting 359 00:29:46,630 --> 00:29:48,350 okay i hope to 360 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,210 to say almost i would think 361 00:29:51,710 --> 00:29:56,410 so thank you all the most users my and this is my address 362 00:29:57,030 --> 00:30:02,810 want to make some questions want to solve the side but works we of course 363 00:30:03,670 --> 00:30:06,790 and of course if you're thank you 364 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,450 of course references 365 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:18,100 so question 366 00:30:28,290 --> 00:30:31,950 what is the area that you think you know most improvement in attracting and keeping 367 00:30:31,950 --> 00:30:32,270 you can 368 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,910 use it generally 369 00:30:37,460 --> 00:30:42,400 i don't really know what with our is most interesting of and you can i 370 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:49,280 think that generally most important the most attractive is called i is i don't know 371 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:54,500 i took talk about and i think that the norm shot project is but attractive 372 00:30:54,500 --> 00:30:59,920 that for much problem first much programmers and not use it this is actually what 373 00:30:59,920 --> 00:31:04,580 this that is very difficult to participate the one on the notion of project because 374 00:31:04,580 --> 00:31:12,070 there is and not roll group of very close the better are was we usually 375 00:31:12,070 --> 00:31:16,190 right very woman who usually work very close one each other 376 00:31:16,410 --> 00:31:23,090 and what i said and generally is that it's very difficult job this group and 377 00:31:23,090 --> 00:31:27,890 to be our want to be or these project 378 00:31:28,530 --> 00:31:31,030 but it could be would 379 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:32,700 thank you 380 00:31:46,670 --> 00:31:53,570 you mentioned that you also work with want to women what in your opinion does 381 00:31:53,570 --> 00:31:59,260 want to women do better to recruit newcomers than gnome goes or vice versa like 382 00:31:59,260 --> 00:32:01,100 how do they compare in your opinion 383 00:32:02,260 --> 00:32:02,740 okay 384 00:32:04,180 --> 00:32:06,470 this is a very hard a question 385 00:32:07,090 --> 00:32:12,090 but it's a to two B S plastic and the question is a generally and 386 00:32:12,090 --> 00:32:19,720 what we know comes from experience of some to what here 387 00:32:20,690 --> 00:32:26,650 and yes which are to do over bustle what we know what we have focus 388 00:32:26,650 --> 00:32:31,410 of this we might is that in participating in that you need to told "'cause" 389 00:32:31,410 --> 00:32:37,190 it's not much more technical work based using it we have more focus it on 390 00:32:37,190 --> 00:32:44,060 be present or make told talk about the program and that tried to make out 391 00:32:44,060 --> 00:32:51,600 other women involved and try to brad okay one know the most important named we 392 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:57,650 had for example is it's been that how to address man well 393 00:32:59,950 --> 00:33:00,870 what's the name 394 00:33:02,890 --> 00:33:09,590 okay a context sorry the interest not context and in because they have in past 395 00:33:09,590 --> 00:33:16,820 there is being during their yes for example some and some we men and us 396 00:33:16,820 --> 00:33:24,740 being not was traded by some participating so we think for example that people like 397 00:33:24,740 --> 00:33:28,960 in that asked them and to be very well i in that in they are 398 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,890 see channel or during the many least or in the middle east is a very 399 00:33:32,890 --> 00:33:39,480 important things and depressing sometimes could be really useful because it to demonstrate to be 400 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:44,410 present because if you can see there are generally how that when i wanted to 401 00:33:44,410 --> 00:33:49,370 them and talk when they are old man and how change the line what when 402 00:33:49,370 --> 00:33:55,240 there is a week and this could be very effective so say okay you'll you 403 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:59,160 arm and of course i respect you for this one place remember that there are 404 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:05,850 women so could you please avoid to use such words all such and such with 405 00:34:05,850 --> 00:34:12,180 to say and could be very interesting this consider that for example in other communities 406 00:34:12,180 --> 00:34:16,910 i don't want to talk why i don't want to say which one if you 407 00:34:16,910 --> 00:34:22,670 say okay i'm i mean we month and nobody told come with you and have 408 00:34:22,670 --> 00:34:28,810 some friend of mind that comes from this community who decide to change they had 409 00:34:28,810 --> 00:34:33,460 she had to make one is the may need a lot of the frame will 410 00:34:33,460 --> 00:34:38,340 make because he's not consider that all so what we have to try to do 411 00:34:38,340 --> 00:34:42,960 is to brad this year or to say okay we are win but we are 412 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:49,460 worked to be to participate so please respect our respect i respect ask sorry 413 00:34:49,940 --> 00:34:52,660 and our ski have socratic sticks 414 00:34:53,250 --> 00:34:57,580 i have to say that generate there is a problem one sometimes there's a problem 415 00:34:57,580 --> 00:34:59,540 with the remote sometimes there are 416 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,690 i can say some culture problems but it's very long story so how to want 417 00:35:04,690 --> 00:35:08,990 to the please you but generally if you are present that if you say okay 418 00:35:08,990 --> 00:35:17,930 i am here immediately sometimes change in man and matter i hope to be the 419 00:35:17,930 --> 00:35:20,520 but my answer could be fun for you 420 00:35:21,050 --> 00:35:21,780 thank you 421 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,270 question exactly but 422 00:35:32,730 --> 00:35:36,440 but it will all you have been talking about it was mean leave the money 423 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:40,700 Q U O point of view that women a problem all of the women fees 424 00:35:40,700 --> 00:35:46,990 problem and then you show you should we also do something also do for example 425 00:35:46,990 --> 00:35:51,170 sure models so that all 426 00:35:51,860 --> 00:35:56,330 we can you know i mean the gonna have magazines that's i can call that 427 00:35:56,330 --> 00:36:02,280 women who are good in no good positions in open source community and could show 428 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:03,220 "'cause" that work 429 00:36:03,710 --> 00:36:04,280 and 430 00:36:05,770 --> 00:36:08,110 do something in that direction 431 00:36:09,910 --> 00:36:14,490 okay i am yes i think that we have to do this 432 00:36:16,330 --> 00:36:22,880 we try to be present and the fact that we talk about what we are 433 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:28,360 doing i'm very proud to be shifted to talk to the fact that i am 434 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:33,810 here because there is a problem a tool for that we because the that means 435 00:36:33,810 --> 00:36:39,970 that we have to do something concrete something and that is not told but it's 436 00:36:39,970 --> 00:36:44,590 a that this is not words but is something concrete a so we are here 437 00:36:44,590 --> 00:36:49,830 and we can create some links and the we can know each other and we 438 00:36:49,830 --> 00:36:54,510 can yes this is that we just strong so i think that a what we 439 00:36:54,510 --> 00:36:59,270 can do usually respectful of that we want is to create this leak so and 440 00:36:59,270 --> 00:37:07,600 a and i believe that and is had opportunity to talk about what we are 441 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:11,510 doing a to make this what public do you remember what i said in the 442 00:37:11,510 --> 00:37:15,990 in the very beginning in the very beginning of the my presentation there is some 443 00:37:15,990 --> 00:37:21,370 of course okay but we have to tell what we have doing that i okay 444 00:37:21,370 --> 00:37:26,550 i am in marketing so i usually talk about to do we are doing but 445 00:37:26,550 --> 00:37:31,890 it's very important because if you do that thing if you do it would work 446 00:37:31,890 --> 00:37:36,420 and you don't talk about what you're doing that you are not doing nothing this 447 00:37:36,420 --> 00:37:40,650 is sad but this is true you have to and this is why i think 448 00:37:40,650 --> 00:37:45,850 that is very important to talk about problem these problem or other programmer related to 449 00:37:45,850 --> 00:37:51,490 women and there was right in the magazine and be present that for example in 450 00:37:51,490 --> 00:37:57,760 have been have to make a tool in them in the lilacs they that is 451 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:04,440 this big have that's the every runs telly and that's i think this is very 452 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:11,330 important because of told can make methinks a new this is very important and that 453 00:38:11,330 --> 00:38:16,780 is the good way to be able to work more effective 454 00:38:23,020 --> 00:38:25,430 five minutes left for another quest i 455 00:38:30,420 --> 00:38:37,700 and coming into the you know community you can from having prior experience to women 456 00:38:37,700 --> 00:38:44,000 how did you feel what we did you feel the differences were between that the 457 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,110 a level except 458 00:38:46,090 --> 00:38:49,600 you talk about the committee tell for you want to the commute of know all 459 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:53,610 you're talking about the women community or you know what i'm talking about that a 460 00:38:53,610 --> 00:38:55,080 larger can you okay 461 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,530 and 462 00:39:00,620 --> 00:39:06,030 at the to be very quickly more you have so they've in okay don't commute 463 00:39:06,030 --> 00:39:11,600 came to community are very similar to the person but they are very different because 464 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,510 the project to whom they are related that very different 465 00:39:15,100 --> 00:39:17,590 generally of them to community 466 00:39:18,870 --> 00:39:26,910 is a community and we show you can really contribute to the to the developing 467 00:39:26,910 --> 00:39:31,230 of you want to because if you want to so how back to monica and 468 00:39:31,230 --> 00:39:40,810 canonical me the most important one unidirectional the stronger action and on to the softer 469 00:39:40,810 --> 00:39:46,420 project but know how and have a i have to say that generally want to 470 00:39:46,420 --> 00:39:49,850 communities very improper messy but there is the 471 00:39:51,110 --> 00:39:56,830 want to is everywhere and so something three so for example if it will if 472 00:39:56,830 --> 00:40:00,780 you were treated a if you completed it and you know and you ask about 473 00:40:00,780 --> 00:40:06,750 plan looks like to and not technical person probably she'll if she save a not 474 00:40:06,750 --> 00:40:10,800 a you want to okay i don't know lax but i know what you want 475 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:11,480 to 476 00:40:13,260 --> 00:40:22,120 and so this how are community to be more to be more flashy but there's 477 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:27,310 more friendship and the and there is a something more data today i to the 478 00:40:27,310 --> 00:40:34,870 idea today is more is more ideal community i don't know if i think it's 479 00:40:34,870 --> 00:40:41,530 quite clear well okay i am i have been in and in and community and 480 00:40:41,530 --> 00:40:45,820 we to committee for seven here and i am here only for i can see 481 00:40:45,820 --> 00:40:50,620 want when you know so i don't know exactly what happened and what happened in 482 00:40:50,620 --> 00:40:55,460 the in all i have to say that generally i found the i have found 483 00:40:55,460 --> 00:41:02,360 them community more what's coming and because for example the fact that is the norm 484 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:07,760 is the community driven how to be to make your work more effective to the 485 00:41:08,220 --> 00:41:13,290 to every part of the program a room of the project sorry for example are 486 00:41:13,290 --> 00:41:19,260 you work it's pi in the community entire community but have not the opportunity to 487 00:41:19,260 --> 00:41:26,960 write something or to prepare some properly some firstly it really is because of we 488 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:31,340 always at the news advert us times when they would do it was very late 489 00:41:31,340 --> 00:41:37,580 to prepare something very properly here we have a we when we have to write 490 00:41:37,580 --> 00:41:43,360 something place for example we know that something's going out not next really sees them 491 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:50,310 today so we had the one week to and work properly and to make your 492 00:41:50,310 --> 00:41:55,230 what really fact if this is what the field and this in this is this 493 00:41:55,230 --> 00:42:00,840 is very dredging about pessimistic button but community is made by wonderful but so 494 00:42:08,130 --> 00:42:11,790 i there that's not that that's a 495 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:18,270 i can say thank you very big thank you very it has all okay thank 496 00:42:18,270 --> 00:42:22,810 you can be here at think use for you work of course because you are 497 00:42:22,810 --> 00:42:26,820 you have this community thank you to have to have my talk and i think