like she's this is my first one to come better very excited to be here
so i really thank you very much to have as a my me myself and
that apple of course michael
i'm very happy to be here and i'm very happy to talk about my object
reports this work come from my O P W work and that have thank you
very much especially can we see here she was be a she's been my name
my to tar and that's you have me and find my way we discover why
i introduced this because i think this is very important note that we have to
keep in mind that we talked about this a be having of the representation so
that start
so what is a new twenty a is coming to a new community
and okay i have to say that this is the but first of all the
sorry them the moment which and you want you have come for the first time
not care the door of in your community i would like to this thing that
this work generally is more a focus on norm but the general about their outreach
in class communities
and yes what happened what the new when i when in your personal come you
know in the last we at
she is very difficult to spend without than because it depends on the person and
it depends from the community and not everything is so easy it's a P a
because of course every person what rights need to and if i have some question
and needs some different some very different and
answers to their questions
so the first question is of course that the first question but when we as
community we have to make by i would south to come is well in the
colour expect from a community
and the second one is of course why he's coming here wise coming in your
community this is very important because and we have to understand that and because every
volunteer as a different route he or she of course may need a different can
it wait for profit to the community and in my brother these told com as
a work on my dog you which i am there is explain in detail every
kind of every types of newcomer and of all india some because there are some
or some where are technical some personal i don't we so that's technical so we
have to one understand what focus everything to be very what's coming
so and you come in new newcomer i've sat what
what he expects to what she expect is to be with comment a probably or
they find is the gate
why because it's very difficult to join in the community and this of course the
probably because newcomer try to of they come to boot but they don't know how
well there must be one of the problem and you come could be a face
one hit right you subtract to understand how the commuter works it to try to
understand the tools the they were the work flow i it's not so immediately to
understand because and if it comes from it for example i come from the from
the community people to and there are some things that go similar something that is
very different so probably well
and you come a use when here at this is a guy a complex at
the root
well the most in from one of the most common mistakes that newcomers or of
that person would like to contribute to and
to a community me it is think that in a fast community is all the
code that okay i see that probably because we may software at the core what
is the most important but it's not enough
because in okay i think that yes
they won't go
probably be wrong there are so many things to do and i think for example
that the importance of the human part
let's talk in that way is very important
i come from the marketing i am i always work as a P R or
a so i mean speech and talk a route and i realise so many years
i accepting work with able to in two thousand some so it's six yes
you
and the what you discover is that in the fact that probably the most project
at very good car there's a very good software by they nice personal would be
able to talk to explain how will i know or you softer well known or
what else could be very easy and very user friendly i feel from goes around
and the czech to say okay let's try easy and people's face no is my
vehicle that depends only because sometime score their seismic lost one charters and
their work will okay if you if we if we could be able to see
and they on the first community from another glance what we could find the something
like people who are i think but it's not so you know this is not
this is not so told king translating the income france depressant in this is very
important and translating is very important of course and drawing for example there are so
many things that that's not technical but is very important to contribute to the community
and we never forget these
off of course the connecting the documentation work is very rich and very massive
okay
we have a other you come or i with the said well you want to
do you should want to do okay
these if i'm very interesting point
that's your call
trust
okay now we the stars of five the story of newcomer want to come by
let's tell the story on the opposite side from the community sites
people who works in the in the product usually work very close each other they
need to trust each other they need to find they wait and then in the
really work help them to create some special links
and this is so this is very this is very nice because they help you
to make your coworker a sort of friendship
they are not probably not there or something to trough but land one you an
income or use what you have no side of trust
okay this is very this is a big problem because one they you one you
come and you are right and you have attributed yes and you have you want
to contribute you have you are reading this a high to be or discriminative but
you can because nobody listens to you nobody trusts you this is a very for
and we have to find a way to solve this problem because what happened is
of course you could happen is of course that a newcomer right has of manly
a for many energy to be to the committee and if them find usefully probably
he was away simply and we don't we have to study i tried to do
this one for example with the still
to be in the most them all what the one with car with come or
we could be because this very
so levels know we try to explain the problem to go on and the
to vocalise to two files we take what we will which is somewhat that we
have to kind of target of course the target of the than you com
the fact that they to come i would like to participate and the target for
the community
sometimes this target was quite different at different and now we shall why and now
i try to show you why now i think the best we could find a
way to make the these two target
this is the greek
do with me for the committee
okay
i can i talk very much we them i reading very much around and they
talk or that we can tinker we look you made a very special work also
you made this or by
and he has for many people coming from many case how what keys if i
am who make a are some a newcomer really in be inside the community
that cross or is that
in this aspect model in which
a personal talk about the community of not more as the community now as we
well can jump in
because i know
the entire participation the and emotional what the special to the community is the first
things to be in to feel like a newcomer be part of school and this
is very important so well we could say that in the in this like moment
which in of comparable so say about use community will our committee we this outreach
what's just for
and this of course it's a portable of with our first real
well the problem the and you come has is introduce yourself
in this part of on regarding of the of the second task that's really sad
i think are trying to and show he scales and try to match his skills
we the to those of the community this is not very easy because for example
i tell i tell you my story i are having in two thousand someone and
i wrote to the pharmacy i might come from detector and the okay actually to
assortment are nice i am here i would like to participate and someone sees all
and i am i slathered to this first so i was not very nice well
in one some fans later D need in data community and need them spoke about
something someone would deal with the newspapers and to yes with the with the trade
magazine generally they had and they asked me they just me to do this and
there are sources of course a huge amount of articles that we that we had
during this yes and this is this is very good because probably this is my
way to be part of the community i find my way and i would like
to help other person
find their way
one of the problem we talk about the them important to find they await not
a lot of the problem then you can
is sometimes that a bit personal work inside the project usually use
that sounds dramatic all channels like i see or so the S A P and
that means that if you have to be done in that moment in this exact
moment thing with the there is the set to debate or which and the team
is talking about something and it could be not open possible so of course
and the risk is that all database have not trace leave no trace and this
is very this is not play shop of course because to want to be filled
itself that cut off from the debate
and so this is in this bring me testing that there are some special thanks
to do get that refuse road map should be very clear everywhere and everybody could
be able to take a look on the weekly or whatever
so
and this is very important because of course if the document issues what every time
and a they could we avoid the risk for example to work in the project
this going to be the protracted for example or on we have the opportunity to
find the we which part of the project is a dating or is most important
one all has a lack of volunteer because i think that of course every contribution
matters and we a new we need to avoid the risk of awards of work
because this is not very fine
okay i am the more about for you want to come of a few bones
to remote product and i think that we can talk about the participation that after
each we don't hear about i have to say that of course i am here
thanks to who just need for this P B a P W program
and i think this is very important to increase the part the fuel participation i
okay this is a very good argument to so they wanted to take too much
about this but i believe in this is important that they can consideration to that
they can drink about this at the okay to keep an eye about this people
participation because it's very important
and i don't know how we are they are these dates i think and this
these are about to
maybe two years ago but
probably they are
could be a little bit it's not very much we are similar we had five
percent participation a unit you want a team approach which want two and a half
and that now i one and a half generally false
okay you we could ask why know well but probably we don't have to ask
here what we what we what i want to say here is them generally one
there are so we want that and try to work other we want the project
is just for this up and of course we you will project and this works
of course in the old P W problem
i need to these data from their press release
and the last yes for example that was the seventy percent of the weather what
special and fee model was people
and interest and by the fifty participants the fifty respondents the come from normal of
what we want so we have been collected more we don't respondents than all the
other up and project all together consider of together i think this week yourself and
these
you should be really be pushing this is not the we have to be a
to beep or should have to be really be known because
i think this is will agree to work
okay now we talk about the problem that you talk about the solution
there is not of course the one single solution
but try to understand the how can we move to want to use this opportunity
to increase the participation
you can see of course an easy saturn incurable disease a generative learning curable just
to have an idea what can talking and this learning to able and toast cast
something some very trusting
the first think sees them in the and the first part of a file when
you come matter i buy in
there are then
the problem he could face well she could face it's very real a and they
are very a very strong
now win time for traffic this will we can also
and by the second ticks that we have to remember is them at the proficient
the rules to so we have the first be all this is the most important
you which of people come and need to face some new challenge not long face
challenge
and this is why we had to give them all the information because we have
to use
the they will be there will to participate
the some things that we have to remember is that one the newcomer a drive
that he need sometimes we know how to works how to work on how the
community works in the you would feel yes how that they can the team works
i don't know how the how that's all the community as a sparse on works
not a nice sometimes to learn how to do what's that community offer to works
and this is very interesting because sometimes if you go around there and i went
wrong there are so many people who say okay but relax quite easy not he
has and then to hope so but trying to work ask i'm every tools could
be very user friendly could be a in paris and we to make these learning
a small so i of course to help newcomers to be in that we need
to work
second kings to take in consideration is the small the small tasks to do some
small some progress task
are you certainly think that one when you come are right and you buy you
made one bite that you want to we all their all their all the apple
of course
and do we have to give to prepare some more past the sounds more by
for newcomer
this is a very demanding process because i for example i am i am and
try to prepare some test some fast for the for their people working in the
in the P R team in italy and it's very demanding because some kind of
say okay but i can do it the way have to prepare this for the
person
especially because we are or one T S so i what time is very precious
but we have to prepare them and the this is if you remember when it's
a that the target the community and the target of the newcomers sometimes we risk
not to match okay we have to the biggest we have to prepare a small
task at to prepare them properly
okay scott that
of course that you know there is this week and this week problem this number
of all about that small task forget to say sorry that we have to prepare
totally some tasks to do a problem to make they and the battery i was
very properly because once this it's a way to professionals more task so let's talk
about that we don't know
i mean and this company's problem i think is a very interesting program is that's
actually what i what it said prepare some that's for your comments about how much
more right but to find
easy within the new tools and the and then you will feel i for to
actually have to say that is not really we should it's not very you have
not much really
and not real no works to i really i dedicated I R C channel
and of course with somebody that task
and i believe that you could be interesting to try to do more space to
these this problem and that to make it more easy to find and one year
i mean in the get involved with peach probably you can see above normal this
year in the very bottom of the page so i i'm not a design of
course i'm not able to so i would like to draw something like that was
she was really horrible but i think that probably try to make these small right
the last to give to this program more relevant to be useful
and other things to do
a startup i'm sorry i was very happy to discover this started because they considered
and we have science so this is very easy to start with the stock
i have to say that i'm very in and what special rights a by this
one because i was the one down some down a our be made from by
other with them that may there a whole P O P W sell eight was
quite nice because these could be a interesting we to me the matched the to
match this target of the community with the with the target of the new com
is something very easy to write for the newcomers easy to make by the common
and the and it get us some richness to the community
i wanna probably if we use icons could be interesting we to made a bidding
more readable so for example if you sure interesting and know in writing or eating
drawing use icons could be it interesting to a to make a the task more
visible i don't know is a proposal
what i think this could be a really interesting is topeka wrong we are part
of first community but there S many product or you know on and it would
be it because i know from where we would take a look and see how
other than of the community try to able to make about are other volunteer be
able but it be feel more about but in their project i think that could
be interesting to take a look at to i want to see problem a ourself
to whether communities well
shower
finally sharing is carrying so
okay i don't knowles be polite always before light
and when we convert abbas he always very exporting sometimes and you always very demanding
he has so much question you don't know how to do things a probably he
try to the world route to
to make stuff
of course it's not very easy and he's not very easy to deal with someone
who with just the right but i think about the we if we will want
to be and i would come in community we have to be polite and be
me passion
but there's
this second this in but important to me of course
speak simple an agenda and generate community what coming from but from a big part
of the word so english could be the second thing what for money for many
what it
so to speak simple to be focus at certain start to speak a sparse ascii
as possible even when nice written in you know i see for example
could be a nice way to hell there but people who is not in and
he's not many people
and yes and the right sometimes could be it easier because you can read and
if you don't understand you can translate so and
is there was a request from not make to promote remember clear interspeaker
okay and now we are i to the most important point at which i want
to focus my work them at the ship
if you remember i told that i had that with mentor and i have here
is because i have such mentors
and membership is but is the field to the most important things once i wanna
ride in your community because mandatory is the person who can't explain to you how
to commit to works with the mattress
teach you how the that to work
and if you actually can give you a
these that do you want a much
that helps you to join the fee actually the set of trust
this is very in very interesting and i have to say that generally known as
a huge and the very impressive a matter should problem and they have very much
because the sometimes you what when you see okay we need the guy the we
need to compose we need the road map everything could meet we make the remote
very much more easier we departed should be some of map
i mentors of the future someone would like to listen to you which is able
to prepare the disk for you is exactly what we need
so
i think that you could be very important and i think that it could be
quite interesting that's to do for not products of course well from for that that's
on that and we got hours and then they want to do something different and
we i would like to propose something you that you enjoyed i would like to
propose a there and to create more strip to read not to should probably i
should call them with in knowing school i don't
i told i told in previously about the buttons to and to match they communicate
and the percentile goals
i think that if we construct our assortment of ship we some courses their tactical
or not technical we could have some personal who are prepared to work in the
in the not word that works sorry in the can works we didn't know tools
and this is could be very interesting because of we could offer something to
the person could be interesting participating
and they could learn something and they could be grateful that the to the community
so we have some stuff name i of course and we have some part should
some volunteer wound up prepare the to work directly on them stuff i think needed
could be very interesting because this bring richness to the project is being a good
and a good but here to the project
i don't know please
ask of course to the volunteer i always see ask if you have some nice
question if you don't know where you were going if you need something
no
that's community we have to say that we have to be we need to listen
so i would like to propose for example to make some sort by or to
make a and a letterbox which we could gain sound some the question are you
comments cool make up or this and that's no new comments who can write because
of course when the you are inside of community you can see what do without
the problem that the new comments with place so if we but prepare some space
for these could be well
could be interesting
okay i hope to
to say almost i would think
so thank you all the most users my and this is my address
want to make some questions want to solve the side but works we of course
and of course if you're thank you
of course references
so question
what is the area that you think you know most improvement in attracting and keeping
you can
use it generally
i don't really know what with our is most interesting of and you can i
think that generally most important the most attractive is called i is i don't know
i took talk about and i think that the norm shot project is but attractive
that for much problem first much programmers and not use it this is actually what
this that is very difficult to participate the one on the notion of project because
there is and not roll group of very close the better are was we usually
right very woman who usually work very close one each other
and what i said and generally is that it's very difficult job this group and
to be our want to be or these project
but it could be would
thank you
you mentioned that you also work with want to women what in your opinion does
want to women do better to recruit newcomers than gnome goes or vice versa like
how do they compare in your opinion
okay
this is a very hard a question
but it's a to two B S plastic and the question is a generally and
what we know comes from experience of some to what here
and yes which are to do over bustle what we know what we have focus
of this we might is that in participating in that you need to told "'cause"
it's not much more technical work based using it we have more focus it on
be present or make told talk about the program and that tried to make out
other women involved and try to brad okay one know the most important named we
had for example is it's been that how to address man well
what's the name
okay a context sorry the interest not context and in because they have in past
there is being during their yes for example some and some we men and us
being not was traded by some participating so we think for example that people like
in that asked them and to be very well i in that in they are
see channel or during the many least or in the middle east is a very
important things and depressing sometimes could be really useful because it to demonstrate to be
present because if you can see there are generally how that when i wanted to
them and talk when they are old man and how change the line what when
there is a week and this could be very effective so say okay you'll you
arm and of course i respect you for this one place remember that there are
women so could you please avoid to use such words all such and such with
to say and could be very interesting this consider that for example in other communities
i don't want to talk why i don't want to say which one if you
say okay i'm i mean we month and nobody told come with you and have
some friend of mind that comes from this community who decide to change they had
she had to make one is the may need a lot of the frame will
make because he's not consider that all so what we have to try to do
is to brad this year or to say okay we are win but we are
worked to be to participate so please respect our respect i respect ask sorry
and our ski have socratic sticks
i have to say that generate there is a problem one sometimes there's a problem
with the remote sometimes there are
i can say some culture problems but it's very long story so how to want
to the please you but generally if you are present that if you say okay
i am here immediately sometimes change in man and matter i hope to be the
but my answer could be fun for you
thank you
question exactly but
but it will all you have been talking about it was mean leave the money
Q U O point of view that women a problem all of the women fees
problem and then you show you should we also do something also do for example
sure models so that all
we can you know i mean the gonna have magazines that's i can call that
women who are good in no good positions in open source community and could show
"'cause" that work
and
do something in that direction
okay i am yes i think that we have to do this
we try to be present and the fact that we talk about what we are
doing i'm very proud to be shifted to talk to the fact that i am
here because there is a problem a tool for that we because the that means
that we have to do something concrete something and that is not told but it's
a that this is not words but is something concrete a so we are here
and we can create some links and the we can know each other and we
can yes this is that we just strong so i think that a what we
can do usually respectful of that we want is to create this leak so and
a and i believe that and is had opportunity to talk about what we are
doing a to make this what public do you remember what i said in the
in the very beginning in the very beginning of the my presentation there is some
of course okay but we have to tell what we have doing that i okay
i am in marketing so i usually talk about to do we are doing but
it's very important because if you do that thing if you do it would work
and you don't talk about what you're doing that you are not doing nothing this
is sad but this is true you have to and this is why i think
that is very important to talk about problem these problem or other programmer related to
women and there was right in the magazine and be present that for example in
have been have to make a tool in them in the lilacs they that is
this big have that's the every runs telly and that's i think this is very
important because of told can make methinks a new this is very important and that
is the good way to be able to work more effective
five minutes left for another quest i
and coming into the you know community you can from having prior experience to women
how did you feel what we did you feel the differences were between that the
a level except
you talk about the committee tell for you want to the commute of know all
you're talking about the women community or you know what i'm talking about that a
larger can you okay
and
at the to be very quickly more you have so they've in okay don't commute
came to community are very similar to the person but they are very different because
the project to whom they are related that very different
generally of them to community
is a community and we show you can really contribute to the to the developing
of you want to because if you want to so how back to monica and
canonical me the most important one unidirectional the stronger action and on to the softer
project but know how and have a i have to say that generally want to
communities very improper messy but there is the
want to is everywhere and so something three so for example if it will if
you were treated a if you completed it and you know and you ask about
plan looks like to and not technical person probably she'll if she save a not
a you want to okay i don't know lax but i know what you want
to
and so this how are community to be more to be more flashy but there's
more friendship and the and there is a something more data today i to the
idea today is more is more ideal community i don't know if i think it's
quite clear well okay i am i have been in and in and community and
we to committee for seven here and i am here only for i can see
want when you know so i don't know exactly what happened and what happened in
the in all i have to say that generally i found the i have found
them community more what's coming and because for example the fact that is the norm
is the community driven how to be to make your work more effective to the
to every part of the program a room of the project sorry for example are
you work it's pi in the community entire community but have not the opportunity to
write something or to prepare some properly some firstly it really is because of we
always at the news advert us times when they would do it was very late
to prepare something very properly here we have a we when we have to write
something place for example we know that something's going out not next really sees them
today so we had the one week to and work properly and to make your
what really fact if this is what the field and this in this is this
is very dredging about pessimistic button but community is made by wonderful but so
i there that's not that that's a
i can say thank you very big thank you very it has all okay thank
you can be here at think use for you work of course because you are
you have this community thank you to have to have my talk and i think