like she's this is my first one to come better very excited to be here so i really thank you very much to have as a my me myself and that apple of course michael i'm very happy to be here and i'm very happy to talk about my object reports this work come from my O P W work and that have thank you very much especially can we see here she was be a she's been my name my to tar and that's you have me and find my way we discover why i introduced this because i think this is very important note that we have to keep in mind that we talked about this a be having of the representation so that start so what is a new twenty a is coming to a new community and okay i have to say that this is the but first of all the sorry them the moment which and you want you have come for the first time not care the door of in your community i would like to this thing that this work generally is more a focus on norm but the general about their outreach in class communities and yes what happened what the new when i 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would like to contribute to and to a community me it is think that in a fast community is all the code that okay i see that probably because we may software at the core what is the most important but it's not enough because in okay i think that yes they won't go probably be wrong there are so many things to do and i think for example that the importance of the human part let's talk in that way is very important i come from the marketing i am i always work as a P R or a so i mean speech and talk a route and i realise so many years i accepting work with able to in two thousand some so it's six yes you and the what you discover is that in the fact that probably the most project at very good car there's a very good software by they nice personal would be able to talk to explain how will i know or you softer well known or what else could be very easy and very user friendly i feel from goes around and the czech to say okay let's try easy and people's face no is my vehicle that depends only 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other they need to trust each other they need to find they wait and then in the really work help them to create some special links and this is so this is very this is very nice because they help you to make your coworker a sort of friendship they are not probably not there or something to trough but land one you an income or use what you have no side of trust okay this is very this is a big problem because one they you one you come and you are right and you have attributed yes and you have you want to contribute you have you are reading this a high to be or discriminative but you can because nobody listens to you nobody trusts you this is a very for and we have to find a way to solve this problem because what happened is of course you could happen is of course that a newcomer right has of manly a for many energy to be to the committee and if them find usefully probably he was away simply and we don't we have to study i tried to do this one for example with the still to be in the most 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as we well can jump in because i know the entire participation the and emotional what the special to the community is the first things to be in to feel like a newcomer be part of school and this is very important so well we could say that in the in this like moment which in of comparable so say about use community will our committee we this outreach what's just for and this of course it's a portable of with our first real well the problem the and you come has is introduce yourself in this part of on regarding of the of the second task that's really sad i think are trying to and show he scales and try to match his skills we the to those of the community this is not very easy because for example i tell i tell you my story i are having in two thousand someone and i wrote to the pharmacy i might come from detector and the okay actually to assortment are nice i am here i would like to participate and someone sees all and i am i slathered to this first so i was not very nice well in one some 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very this is not play shop of course because to want to be filled itself that cut off from the debate and so this is in this bring me testing that there are some special thanks to do get that refuse road map should be very clear everywhere and everybody could be able to take a look on the weekly or whatever so and this is very important because of course if the document issues what every time and a they could we avoid the risk for example to work in the project this going to be the protracted for example or on we have the opportunity to find the we which part of the project is a dating or is most important one all has a lack of volunteer because i think that of course every contribution matters and we a new we need to avoid the risk of awards of work because this is not very fine okay i am the more about for you want to come of a few bones to remote product and i think that we can talk about the participation that after each we don't hear about i have to say that of course i am here thanks to who just need for this P B a P W program and i think this is very important to increase the part the fuel participation i okay this is a very good argument to so they wanted to take too much about this but i believe in this is important that they can consideration to that they can drink about this at the okay to keep an eye about this people participation because it's very important and i don't know how we are they are these dates i think and this these are about to maybe two years ago but probably they are could be a little bit it's not very much we are similar we had five percent participation a unit you want a team approach which want two and a half and that now i one and a half generally false okay you we could ask why know well but probably we don't have to ask here what we what we what i want to say here is them generally one there are so we want that and try to work other we want the project is just for this up and of course we you will project and this works of course 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trusting the first think sees them in the and the first part of a file when you come matter i buy in there are then the problem he could face well she could face it's very real a and they are very a very strong now win time for traffic this will we can also and by the second ticks that we have to remember is them at the proficient the rules to so we have the first be all this is the most important you which of people come and need to face some new challenge not long face challenge and this is why we had to give them all the information because we have to use the they will be there will to participate the some things that we have to remember is that one the newcomer a drive that he need sometimes we know how to works how to work on how the community works in the you would feel yes how that they can the team works i don't know how the how that's all the community as a sparse on works not a nice sometimes to learn how to do what's that community offer to works and this is very interesting because sometimes if you go around there and i went wrong there are so many people who say okay but relax quite easy not he has and then to hope so but trying to work ask i'm every tools could be very user friendly could be a in paris and we to make these learning a small so i of course to help newcomers to be in that we need to work second kings to take in consideration is the small the small tasks to do some small some progress task are you certainly think that one when you come are right and you buy you made one bite that you want to we all their all their all the apple of course and do we have to give to prepare some more past the sounds more by for newcomer this is a very demanding process because i for example i am i am and try to prepare some test some fast for the for their people working in the in the P R team in italy and it's very demanding because some kind of say okay but i can do it the way have to prepare this for the person especially because we are or one T S so i what time is very precious but we have to prepare them and the this is if you remember when it's a that the target the community and the target of the newcomers sometimes we risk not to match okay we have to the biggest we have to prepare a small task at to prepare them properly okay scott that of course that you know there is this week and this week problem this number of all about that small task forget to say sorry that we have to prepare totally some tasks to do a problem to make they and the battery i was very properly because once this it's a way to professionals more task so let's talk about that we don't know i mean and this company's problem i think is a very interesting program is that's actually what i what it said prepare some that's for your comments about how much more right but to find easy within the new tools and the and then you will feel i for to actually have to say that is not really we should it's not very you have not much really and not real no works to i really i dedicated I R C channel and of course with somebody that task and i believe that you could be interesting to try to do more space to these this problem and that to make it more easy to find and one year i mean in the get involved with peach probably you can see above normal this year in the very bottom of the page so i i'm not a design of course i'm not able to so i would like to draw something like that was she was really horrible but i think that probably try to make these small right the last to give to this program more relevant to be useful and other things to do a startup i'm sorry i was very happy to discover this started because they considered and we have science so this is very easy to start with the stock i have to say that i'm very in and what special rights a by this one because i was the one down some down a our be made from by other with them that may there a whole P O P W sell eight was quite nice because these could be a interesting we to me the matched the to match this target of the community with the with the target of the new com is something very easy to write for the newcomers easy to make by the common and the and it get us some richness to the community i wanna probably if we use icons could be interesting we to made a bidding more readable so for example if you sure interesting and know in writing or eating drawing use icons could be it interesting to a to make a the task more visible i don't know is a proposal what i think this could be a really interesting is topeka wrong we are part of first community but there S many product or you know on and it would be it because i know from where we would take a look and see how other than of the community try to able to make about are other volunteer be able but it be feel more about but in their project i think that could be interesting to take a look at to i want to see problem a ourself to whether communities well shower finally sharing is carrying so okay i don't knowles be polite always before light and when we convert abbas he always very exporting sometimes and you always very demanding he has so much question you don't know how to do things a probably he try to the world route to to make stuff of course it's not very easy and he's not very easy to deal with someone who with just the right but i think about the we if we will want to be and i would come in community we have to be polite and be me passion but there's this second this in but important to me of course speak simple an agenda and generate community what coming from but from a big part of the word so english could be the second thing what for money for many what it so to speak simple to be focus at certain start to speak a sparse ascii as possible even when nice written in you know i see for example could be a nice way to hell there but people who is not in and he's not many people and yes and the right sometimes could be it easier because you can read and if you don't understand you can translate so and is there was a request from not make to promote remember clear interspeaker okay and now we are i to the most important point at which i want to focus my work them at the ship if you remember i told that i had that with mentor and i have here is because i have such mentors and membership is but is the field to the most important things once i wanna ride in your community because mandatory is the person who can't explain to you how to commit to works with the mattress teach you how the that to work and if you actually can give you a these that do you want a much that helps you to join the fee actually the set of trust this is very in very interesting and i have to say that generally known as a huge and the very impressive a matter should problem and they have very much because the sometimes you what when you see okay we need the guy the we need to compose we need the road map everything could meet we make the remote very much more easier we departed should be some of map i mentors of the future someone would like to listen to you which is able to prepare the disk for you is exactly what we need so i think that you could be very important and i think that it could be quite interesting that's to do for not products of course well from for that that's on that and we got hours and then they want to do something different and we i would like to propose something you that you enjoyed i would like to propose a there and to create more strip to read not to should probably i should call them with in knowing school i don't i told i told in previously about the buttons to and to match they communicate and the percentile goals i think that if we construct our assortment of ship we some courses their tactical or not technical we could have some personal who are prepared to work in the in the not word that works sorry in the can works we didn't know tools and this is could be very interesting because of we could offer something to the person could be interesting participating and they could learn something and they could be grateful that the to the community so we have some stuff name i of course and we have some part should some volunteer wound up prepare the to work directly on them stuff i think needed could be very interesting because this bring richness to the project is being a good and a good but here to the project i don't know please ask of course to the volunteer i always see ask if you have some nice question if you don't know where you were going if you need something no that's community we have to say that we have to be we need to listen so i would like to propose for example to make some sort by or to make a and a letterbox which we could gain sound some the question are you comments cool make up or this and that's no new comments who can write because of course when the you are inside of community you can see what do without the problem that the new comments with place so if we but prepare some space for these could be well could be interesting okay i hope to to say almost i would think so thank you all the most users my and this is my address want to make some questions want to solve the side but works we of course and of course if you're thank you of course references so question what is the area that you think you know most improvement in attracting and keeping you can use it generally i don't really know what with our is most interesting of and you can i think that generally most important the most attractive is called i is i don't know i took talk about and i think that the norm shot project is but attractive that for much problem first much programmers and not use it this is actually what this that is very difficult to participate the one on the notion of project because there is and not roll group of very close the better are was we usually right very woman who usually work very close one each other and what i said and generally is that it's very difficult job this group and to be our want to be or these project but it could be would thank you you mentioned that you also work with want to women what in your opinion does want to women do better to recruit newcomers than gnome goes or vice versa like how do they compare in your opinion okay this is a very hard a question but it's a to two B S plastic and the question is a generally and what we know comes from experience of some to what here and yes which are to do over bustle what we know what we have focus of this we might is that in participating in that you need to told "'cause" it's not much more technical work based using it we have more focus it on be present or make told talk about the program and that tried to make out other women involved and try to brad okay one know the most important named we had for example is it's been that how to address man well what's the name okay a context sorry the interest not context and in because they have in past there is being during their yes for example some and some we men and us being not was traded by some participating so we think for example that people like in that asked them and to be very well i in that in they are see channel or during the many least or in the middle east is a very important things and depressing sometimes could be really useful because it to demonstrate to be present because if you can see there are generally how that when i wanted to them and talk when they are old man and how change the line what when there is a week and this could be very effective so say okay you'll you arm and of course i respect you for this one place remember that there are women so could you please avoid to use such words all such and such with to say and could be very interesting this consider that for example in other communities i don't want to talk why i don't want to say which one if you say okay i'm i mean we month and nobody told come with you and have some friend of mind that comes from this community who decide to change they had she had to make one is the may need a lot of the frame will make because he's not consider that all so what we have to try to do is to brad this year or to say okay we are win but we are worked to be to participate so please respect our respect i respect ask sorry and our ski have socratic sticks i have to say that generate there is a problem one sometimes there's a problem with the remote sometimes there are i can say some culture problems but it's very long story so how to want to the please you but generally if you are present that if you say okay i am here immediately sometimes change in man and matter i hope to be the but my answer could be fun for you thank you question exactly but but it will all you have been talking about it was mean leave the money Q U O point of view that women a problem all of the women fees problem and then you show you should we also do something also do for example sure models so that all we can you know i mean the gonna have magazines that's i can call that women who are good in no good positions in open source community and could show "'cause" that work and do something in that direction okay i am yes i think that we have to do this we try to be present and the fact that we talk about what we are doing i'm very proud to be shifted to talk to the fact that i am here because there is a problem a tool for that we because the that means that we have to do something concrete something and that is not told but it's a that this is not words but is something concrete a so we are here and we can create some links and the we can know each other and we can yes this is that we just strong so i think that a what we can do usually respectful of that we want is to create this leak so and a and i believe that and is had opportunity to talk about what we are doing a to make this what public do you remember what i said in the in the very beginning in the very beginning of the my presentation there is some of course okay but we have to tell what we have doing that i okay i am in marketing so i usually talk about to do we are doing but it's very important because if you do that thing if you do it would work and you don't talk about what you're doing that you are not doing nothing this is sad but this is true you have to and this is why i think that is very important to talk about problem these problem or other programmer related to women and there was right in the magazine and be present that for example in have been have to make a tool in them in the lilacs they that is this big have that's the every runs telly and that's i think this is very important because of told can make methinks a new this is very important and that is the good way to be able to work more effective five minutes left for another quest i and coming into the you know community you can from having prior experience to women how did you feel what we did you feel the differences were between that the a level except you talk about the committee tell for you want to the commute of know all you're talking about the women community or you know what i'm talking about that a larger can you okay and at the to be very quickly more you have so they've in okay don't commute came to community are very similar to the person but they are very different because the project to whom they are related that very different generally of them to community is a community and we show you can really contribute to the to the developing of you want to because if you want to so how back to monica and canonical me the most important one unidirectional the stronger action and on to the softer project but know how and have a i have to say that generally want to communities very improper messy but there is the want to is everywhere and so something three so for example if it will if you were treated a if you completed it and you know and you ask about plan looks like to and not technical person probably she'll if she save a not a you want to okay i don't know lax but i know what you want to and so this how are community to be more to be more flashy but there's more friendship and the and there is a something more data today i to the idea today is more is more ideal community i don't know if i think it's quite clear well okay i am i have been in and in and community and we to committee for seven here and i am here only for i can see want when you know so i don't know exactly what happened and what happened in the in all i have to say that generally i found the i have found them community more what's coming and because for example the fact that is the norm is the community driven how to be to make your work more effective to the to every part of the program a room of the project sorry for example are you work it's pi in the community entire community but have not the opportunity to write something or to prepare some properly some firstly it really is because of we always at the news advert us times when they would do it was very late to prepare something very properly here we have a we when we have to write something place for example we know that something's going out not next really sees them today so we had the one week to and work properly and to make your what really fact if this is what the field and this in this is this is very dredging about pessimistic button but community is made by wonderful but so i there that's not that that's a i can say thank you very big thank you very it has all okay thank you can be here at think use for you work of course because you are you have this community thank you to have to have my talk and i think