1 00:00:09,450 --> 00:00:14,300 so i think about fast education this is one of my favourite quotes about education 2 00:00:14,300 --> 00:00:17,720 i had to go to graduate was from this 3 00:00:18,220 --> 00:00:21,600 i've just had it around for a long time which is education is what is 4 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,980 what is that when you forgot not of so after you've been through all the 5 00:00:24,980 --> 00:00:25,490 tests 6 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:30,610 and you don't really remember all the little bits and pieces that's what's that's what's 7 00:00:30,610 --> 00:00:31,980 left and we think about education 8 00:00:33,900 --> 00:00:34,330 so 9 00:00:35,370 --> 00:00:36,960 i was home schooled 10 00:00:37,530 --> 00:00:42,050 i was actually well i like so people in the third grade dropout that's the 11 00:00:42,050 --> 00:00:47,040 fun way to say i went through third grade and i was actually home schooled 12 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,100 for the first half of kindergarten when i was are we little K and i 13 00:00:50,100 --> 00:00:53,450 remember that being a lot more fun than school and i convince my mom to 14 00:00:53,450 --> 00:00:55,570 put me out of school and go back to homeschooling 15 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,140 and from so from fourth grade and still 16 00:00:59,830 --> 00:01:04,490 i took the A C which is a college example and us when i was 17 00:01:04,490 --> 00:01:07,910 eighteen i never took any more tests 18 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:13,410 and it was it was great that's what i actually you graduate from high school 19 00:01:13,410 --> 00:01:18,230 though because in us there's something called come our school which is an umbrella school 20 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:24,730 so for home schoolers that want a standard transcript and the standard 21 00:01:25,050 --> 00:01:30,350 a high school diploma for just purposes it use of applying to colleges and what 22 00:01:30,350 --> 00:01:35,700 not you can in the rolling can or school and actually have an international school 23 00:01:35,700 --> 00:01:37,870 they also have a base in germany actually 24 00:01:38,370 --> 00:01:42,230 as well and they actually all they also have a campus cool it's in ann 25 00:01:42,230 --> 00:01:46,920 arbour michigan which is about a four and a half hour drive from my house 26 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:48,370 so i've been there a few times 27 00:01:48,870 --> 00:01:50,120 over the years 28 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:54,050 and i graduated you doesn't do actually graduated here really 29 00:01:55,110 --> 00:02:00,160 i didn't actually know this until about six months before i graduated because we had 30 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,410 the we had these things called credit report forms where you filled out what classes 31 00:02:03,410 --> 00:02:06,010 you were taking and how many hours you're done for this or that 32 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:11,780 and i had failed to send in mind for the second year so the middle 33 00:02:11,780 --> 00:02:15,650 of the third year so i didn't really realise how much i have done that 34 00:02:15,650 --> 00:02:20,350 second year and up till then and i realise when i was going to say 35 00:02:20,350 --> 00:02:25,280 that in that i had gotten something like four credit hours the last year and 36 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:29,740 i only needed like six or eight or something for that year and so i 37 00:02:29,740 --> 00:02:34,420 remember my dad came home from working as like so i guess what i graduated 38 00:02:34,420 --> 00:02:36,020 it was fun 39 00:02:36,470 --> 00:02:40,520 i don't have is waiting this year actually so i guess i'm gonna have to 40 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:45,210 do something else "'cause" at that point i was looking into applying for a 41 00:02:46,270 --> 00:02:48,180 us foreign exchange student program or 42 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:53,180 and all strip something fun for my senior but 43 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,090 in any case i graduated and because i graduate a year early i didn't have 44 00:02:57,090 --> 00:02:59,970 time to apply to the school that actually wanted to go to which was in 45 00:02:59,970 --> 00:03:03,170 alaska at that point my plan was to be a marine biologist 46 00:03:03,930 --> 00:03:05,510 i'd forgotten how much i hated school 47 00:03:06,340 --> 00:03:11,700 i quickly remembered when i went to a little can stay interest grows which is 48 00:03:11,700 --> 00:03:16,500 like their satellite school near me and i went there for one semester and remembered 49 00:03:16,500 --> 00:03:20,900 how much i hated school and sitting in mostly people talk and writing things down 50 00:03:21,300 --> 00:03:27,520 so i then transferred down talking college which is also in ohio and a talking 51 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,890 i may be injured have to so she's from them there 52 00:03:31,390 --> 00:03:35,590 not really super useful at this point there in that customers mention and natural resource 53 00:03:35,590 --> 00:03:36,160 management 54 00:03:36,850 --> 00:03:40,600 so about as far away from computer science as you can get 55 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,120 it was a fun school and of last time at my husband there 56 00:03:45,070 --> 00:03:45,840 and 57 00:03:46,780 --> 00:03:50,360 i since then i spent a year in spain in two thousand five because i 58 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,730 want to learn spanish F we would approve when i realised that i should really 59 00:03:53,730 --> 00:03:55,870 learn spanish of from gonna travel that way 60 00:03:56,680 --> 00:04:00,240 at least three more useful language and so it's been a year there in learn 61 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:01,680 spanish and came home and 62 00:04:02,350 --> 00:04:02,950 what not 63 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:04,510 so 64 00:04:04,950 --> 00:04:05,970 something that's adjusting 65 00:04:06,370 --> 00:04:09,210 or for most people to realise that i live in the middle of nowhere and 66 00:04:09,210 --> 00:04:13,740 i see that jokingly and most people don't really believe me but if you see 67 00:04:13,740 --> 00:04:14,870 at the end here 68 00:04:15,740 --> 00:04:19,730 at the at the very end of that white line there's a little white spot 69 00:04:19,730 --> 00:04:23,460 and that's actually the roof of the cab that my dad lives in we live 70 00:04:23,460 --> 00:04:27,950 in the other sort of creamy college but there this is all a wider of 71 00:04:27,950 --> 00:04:33,520 this is about like a mile or fight so about a half mile probably almost 72 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:37,990 so a larger view that the carolyn up there is that's the county see 73 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,750 the other little mark what the name of here 74 00:04:42,230 --> 00:04:46,200 that story that's where my son went to school for a year and a half 75 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:50,570 i guess you'd at your public preschool this is you like that you love that 76 00:04:50,970 --> 00:04:56,610 and then he did about a month of kindergarten maybe to any sort of complaining 77 00:04:56,610 --> 00:04:57,860 didn't wanna go and 78 00:04:58,590 --> 00:05:02,100 i couldn't blame "'em" i hate school i guess that i remember that 79 00:05:02,570 --> 00:05:06,770 whenever i go back so i pull them out and now we're homeschooling so in 80 00:05:06,770 --> 00:05:07,420 the us 81 00:05:08,300 --> 00:05:13,030 homeschooling accounts for about three percent of the population of gets as of two thousand 82 00:05:13,030 --> 00:05:18,020 and seven in nineteen seventy two was when it started to become legal it i 83 00:05:18,020 --> 00:05:21,680 don't know when it really became completely legal in the us where people were worried 84 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:26,930 anymore "'cause" when i was home schooling originally in the eighties and the early nineties 85 00:05:26,930 --> 00:05:30,680 it was still sort of an iffy proposition which is why my family join come 86 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:35,730 are originally because they were way to be sort of safe and not worry about 87 00:05:35,730 --> 00:05:37,790 the law that if you got in trouble 88 00:05:38,380 --> 00:05:39,800 and more would represent you 89 00:05:41,610 --> 00:05:46,240 so why we home school is because well i it just doesn't wanna go to 90 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:46,530 school 91 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:52,090 and then be is because like in school can if you think of the world 92 00:05:52,090 --> 00:05:55,050 and what there is to learn about it as a as a pie chart which 93 00:05:55,050 --> 00:05:59,080 is the blue in school kids they get they get this little section right they 94 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:03,660 get this section of the world of exposure to different things a different ideas at 95 00:06:03,660 --> 00:06:06,810 school but they miss out on a whole bunch more because the world is not 96 00:06:06,810 --> 00:06:12,000 just school as we all know who have gone away and moved on from school 97 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,800 and the before what a lot of people have a problem with home schooling and 98 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:20,100 us is because so many people want school for religious really which isn't me but 99 00:06:20,100 --> 00:06:21,330 they really just want to lose 100 00:06:21,860 --> 00:06:26,670 because they want expose their kids to this to this tiny sliver of the world 101 00:06:26,670 --> 00:06:28,990 of a little bit of education and of there 102 00:06:29,630 --> 00:06:35,760 they're very small view of the world which i don't agree with and hopefully most 103 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,320 people don't agree with but there's lots of them and us to do 104 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,860 but i don't school because i wanna suppose make is to this which is everything 105 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:46,420 which is everything that there is so mostly what we deal with home schoolers 106 00:06:46,950 --> 00:06:49,600 is me read books and we play games 107 00:06:50,020 --> 00:06:52,200 and we acknowledge that 108 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:59,180 that we're always learning your learning something right now i'm running something right now were 109 00:06:59,180 --> 00:07:00,340 always learning something 110 00:07:00,850 --> 00:07:04,050 learning never starts and it never stops and so you die from them when you're 111 00:07:04,050 --> 00:07:08,420 born so and schooling is what we really doing i've been saying i'm home schooling 112 00:07:08,420 --> 00:07:09,000 that's 113 00:07:09,260 --> 00:07:13,160 technically sure that's what i tell the government but actually what i'm doing is called 114 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:14,480 on schooling and 115 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,390 when i grew up i was in school or i didn't actually know that like 116 00:07:18,390 --> 00:07:22,340 that's about high school college and realised that we were actually on schooling 117 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:27,460 and this is a quote from john whole it was sort of the father of 118 00:07:27,460 --> 00:07:32,080 a lot of homeschooling he's right here a whole bunch of books in the i 119 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,140 think the late seventies well when you started writing through the eighties 120 00:07:35,660 --> 00:07:41,520 about education and kids and how kids learn and it you know to trust children 121 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:45,910 is the hardest thing that we can possibly do because most of us grew up 122 00:07:45,910 --> 00:07:49,190 not being told that we weren't we couldn't be trusted 123 00:07:49,900 --> 00:07:52,500 that we couldn't be trusted only in order to learn you had to go to 124 00:07:52,500 --> 00:07:57,250 school and sit down and read a book and you worksheets intake test 125 00:07:58,310 --> 00:08:01,270 so these are just a couple of other quotes from john whole 126 00:08:03,820 --> 00:08:06,140 and it it's true that's what 127 00:08:06,820 --> 00:08:11,070 you know if you think about it were always learning and everything we do and 128 00:08:11,070 --> 00:08:17,800 my biggest example might you six example for most people is legos because probably all 129 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,850 this have played with legos right at anyone in here not that with like that 130 00:08:20,850 --> 00:08:21,290 this do that 131 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:24,080 you've never like this like this 132 00:08:25,460 --> 00:08:25,920 now 133 00:08:31,220 --> 00:08:35,130 i okay so you play with the spanish version of like this 134 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:36,690 okay so 135 00:08:38,190 --> 00:08:39,690 i 136 00:08:40,860 --> 00:08:41,780 i 137 00:08:42,820 --> 00:08:48,830 i so means that my voice the little one facing us is key in he's 138 00:08:48,830 --> 00:08:53,390 well will be for on wednesday and yellow that it was used would use as 139 00:08:53,390 --> 00:08:58,010 well homeschooling now and this is mostly my collection of like those there's some that 140 00:08:58,010 --> 00:09:01,110 they have gotten for birthdays and christmas and the last couple years 141 00:09:01,660 --> 00:09:06,090 this is a very common picture our room when you walk in our house this 142 00:09:06,090 --> 00:09:09,920 happens at least once a day that it that's for the legos people down and 143 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,000 usually there are all they're not always sometimes 144 00:09:13,550 --> 00:09:16,220 sometimes they get put away because you know i need to vacuum the floor or 145 00:09:16,220 --> 00:09:19,590 something or i just wanna do something else besides the one that goes first up 146 00:09:19,590 --> 00:09:23,500 around i guess because as we all know stepping on the was a slightly painful 147 00:09:24,620 --> 00:09:28,370 i actually had a cut in my for a few months ago from a lego 148 00:09:28,370 --> 00:09:32,380 that somehow i stepped on just perfectly wrong and it was actually leading it was 149 00:09:32,380 --> 00:09:35,040 really painful but so legos 150 00:09:35,420 --> 00:09:36,500 when you think about it 151 00:09:37,150 --> 00:09:40,090 when you learn when you're building with legos when you're playing with 152 00:09:40,780 --> 00:09:44,880 what do you and your learning how to count how to add how to subtract 153 00:09:45,490 --> 00:09:50,560 how to build things how to you are really about map all about science and 154 00:09:50,560 --> 00:09:55,970 engineering right you're learning about all kinds of things about our how to design how 155 00:09:55,970 --> 00:10:00,240 to make things look good how to you know versus building something with the jumble 156 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,620 of colours verses all the same colour my son still in the stage where he's 157 00:10:03,620 --> 00:10:07,130 just i need this piece i don't care what colour this i'm sure that will 158 00:10:07,130 --> 00:10:10,540 change eventually but right now he doesn't care we just want to build things 159 00:10:13,370 --> 00:10:13,840 so 160 00:10:14,460 --> 00:10:17,950 that that's just my example to get you thinking of the of how to think 161 00:10:17,950 --> 00:10:23,930 about on schooling so and computers and actually this is my voice computer just to 162 00:10:23,930 --> 00:10:28,780 the right of it is their bunk beds there's at least are sitting there charging 163 00:10:28,780 --> 00:10:30,910 which is a also constant battle 164 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,790 but what we use is we use this all that stuff this was my high 165 00:10:35,790 --> 00:10:38,470 school graduation present it was a great pc 166 00:10:39,070 --> 00:10:43,180 back and it works so works fine but actually runs X F C E or 167 00:10:43,180 --> 00:10:48,290 actually the going to be exact because it just won't quite run you know actually 168 00:10:48,290 --> 00:10:52,760 haven't tried but i'm pretty confident five hundred megs of ram and it'll P for 169 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:54,240 is probably not sufficient 170 00:10:54,950 --> 00:10:59,060 they also use a lot of lifters they play with those most in the car 171 00:10:59,060 --> 00:11:02,610 and there's all kinds of great games that each in different things 172 00:11:03,550 --> 00:11:05,870 and they also plan like that what i have a pain kind which was the 173 00:11:05,870 --> 00:11:11,650 kick starter i think over christmas so it's a tablet that's of three tablet it 174 00:11:11,650 --> 00:11:14,950 runs it had to a version of and run it but i can also stick 175 00:11:14,950 --> 00:11:19,580 in a little S P card and it'll boot into linux 176 00:11:20,420 --> 00:11:24,070 and i think it's relative see that on it they also play with obviously are 177 00:11:24,070 --> 00:11:29,930 small are enjoyed smartphones the computer and my laptop occasionally when i let them play 178 00:11:29,930 --> 00:11:34,160 with it which is unusual because there for in six and i don't know if 179 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,000 you have little kids but they're slightly on the destructive side 180 00:11:38,750 --> 00:11:41,650 so as far as applications that we use in that they have access to every 181 00:11:41,650 --> 00:11:43,660 day there's a lot more than this 182 00:11:45,170 --> 00:11:49,750 mostly that they love to play games obvious is all it's do they play talk 183 00:11:49,750 --> 00:11:54,170 smack effects typing all the time those are games of them they also play a 184 00:11:54,170 --> 00:11:58,480 or i don't know if you've heard of this it's another application it's these are 185 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:03,090 all they're fairly basic they start out adding and subtracting you believe they going to 186 00:12:03,090 --> 00:12:07,660 multiplication and division my guys haven't gotten anywhere near there yet but i'm sure they 187 00:12:07,660 --> 00:12:12,490 will eventually there's also you can pre which is a gonna project and you can 188 00:12:12,490 --> 00:12:16,180 pre has a ton of stuff and it's a suite of programs so there's all 189 00:12:16,180 --> 00:12:22,660 sorts of games there's all sorts of writing programs there's you know there's reading when 190 00:12:22,660 --> 00:12:25,990 you A B C's how to count it all sorts of things some of our 191 00:12:25,990 --> 00:12:30,950 summer go students last year real programs that added in stuff about space and physics 192 00:12:30,950 --> 00:12:33,620 and stuff which was really cool and really fun to have 193 00:12:34,540 --> 00:12:38,520 they also play a few games on our tablets and things this is swords and 194 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,560 soldiers does anyone your plate swords and soldiers 195 00:12:41,510 --> 00:12:44,850 it was in a whole bundle which is how i have it "'cause" i've been 196 00:12:44,850 --> 00:12:48,620 buying most of the humble one of things are bottles for a long time this 197 00:12:48,620 --> 00:12:50,500 is one of the my voice favourite games 198 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:55,030 this is a great example of how kids are just sponges and learn things 199 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:59,490 we were at a museum dedicated lately this a few times and we write a 200 00:12:59,490 --> 00:13:05,790 museum in ohio and it had big a displays about different cultures and one of 201 00:13:05,790 --> 00:13:10,390 them was the chinese and it was like okay see and the chinese invented gunpowder 202 00:13:10,390 --> 00:13:13,430 and my son and just went away that i want 203 00:13:13,980 --> 00:13:17,830 right you learn where did where did we possibly go over trying to think anyway 204 00:13:17,830 --> 00:13:23,240 sergeant sort of someone in and insertions orders there's the vikings what you see right 205 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:28,060 now and there's also chinese and aspects that you can play as and the chinese 206 00:13:28,060 --> 00:13:32,870 have gotten harder they have guns because they invented gunpowder and that's how my son 207 00:13:32,870 --> 00:13:36,460 learned chinese the did gunpowder which just kind of made me laugh and it still 208 00:13:36,460 --> 00:13:40,260 makes you have to think about it that just random things that they pick up 209 00:13:40,260 --> 00:13:42,180 everywhere constantly 210 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:49,330 as far as other ways that we have for kids to learn about computers is 211 00:13:49,330 --> 00:13:54,760 there's this thing called scratch and their motto is imagine program share it's done by 212 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,710 mit my voice haven't messed with that it's mostly online 213 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:05,130 and they haven't quite got to that point they're not quite reading but i i'm 214 00:14:05,130 --> 00:14:09,930 hoping to introduce this fall and when i get back and getting some more different 215 00:14:09,930 --> 00:14:13,490 things and stop there's also alice i don't know much about alice i was trying 216 00:14:13,490 --> 00:14:18,720 to look it up the last couple days hopefully i i'd like to introduce all 217 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:23,670 the but the problem that we have with kids in computers is that in school 218 00:14:23,670 --> 00:14:27,620 or even at home most people have what they have windows or they have mac 219 00:14:27,620 --> 00:14:31,820 and so that's what kids are being taught right now is there learning about windows 220 00:14:31,820 --> 00:14:36,300 there learning about mac and how to run their not learning anything about free software 221 00:14:36,300 --> 00:14:38,690 they're not wearing anything about how to run it 222 00:14:39,380 --> 00:14:44,210 or it's ideals and what's behind it and as a result 223 00:14:44,630 --> 00:14:49,210 we don't have much for them right and still they get to 224 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:53,700 to call it really there's some other things here and there but in until we 225 00:14:53,700 --> 00:14:57,660 get to college most people most kids aren't really exposed in any way shape or 226 00:14:57,660 --> 00:15:02,140 form a believe it's a college you're not generally exposed to for software and by 227 00:15:02,140 --> 00:15:07,620 that time you've lost them because they've already become set in their ways and what 228 00:15:07,620 --> 00:15:08,860 they use what they know 229 00:15:09,350 --> 00:15:14,890 and if we wanna add more people to pass generally to get known 230 00:15:15,590 --> 00:15:19,650 we need to figure out some way to reach out long before they get to 231 00:15:19,650 --> 00:15:20,330 college 232 00:15:20,670 --> 00:15:23,100 some way to reach out and grab them 233 00:15:23,540 --> 00:15:29,400 and something to get them thinking there's also there's also sugar of course which is 234 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:34,400 an out should of the one a proper trial that's who was originally developed for 235 00:15:35,020 --> 00:15:39,730 and sugars great but their problem is sugars a fairly basic 236 00:15:40,250 --> 00:15:40,890 and it's 237 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:44,120 kind of hard to get you have to know how do at least install linux 238 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:48,980 or at least be willing to trying bring something to we use P key which 239 00:15:48,980 --> 00:15:52,570 is not something most people know how to do for first 240 00:15:53,030 --> 00:15:57,880 for first way in to fox i love sure i haven't got a my voice 241 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,680 computer yet at some point i'll probably give that a try 242 00:16:02,310 --> 00:16:05,330 you know that's with the other problem with the one leftover trout program is they 243 00:16:05,330 --> 00:16:09,690 have these all something like that the excellent have a that's coming out shortly and 244 00:16:09,690 --> 00:16:12,880 i would love to have a couple of these for my voice but i have 245 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:17,510 no way to get them because they only are sold by the hundred i think 246 00:16:17,510 --> 00:16:21,010 i do we have a i look up that the minimum order is a hundred 247 00:16:21,010 --> 00:16:23,440 and because they're really only find them to schools 248 00:16:23,830 --> 00:16:27,080 and they're not really trying to get to them so them the schools even in 249 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:27,890 the us that's what i've 250 00:16:28,790 --> 00:16:32,910 played around the idea of trying to get a hundred home schoolers or hundred friends 251 00:16:32,910 --> 00:16:36,430 that would want to buy one of these for their kids they're trying to put 252 00:16:36,430 --> 00:16:40,320 together a group by but i haven't managed to figure out exactly how to do 253 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:44,340 that i don't know quite that many people what can kids at least that have 254 00:16:44,340 --> 00:16:48,330 the money to spend a hundred order dollars on a toy is actually for their 255 00:16:48,330 --> 00:16:52,400 kids i would love to do it "'cause" i would love to have one of 256 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:56,570 these able to have two of them actually because i would need one for each 257 00:16:56,570 --> 00:16:58,440 just what we have we have to be pictures because 258 00:16:58,930 --> 00:16:59,890 one is yes 259 00:17:01,190 --> 00:17:05,090 well and i would not want to but at least to at least to one 260 00:17:05,090 --> 00:17:11,240 for each of them edit their minimum but there needs to be something some way 261 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:15,640 for people to get fast easily and if even these were available for sale it 262 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,790 would be a lot easier to say you can go buy one but you can 263 00:17:20,780 --> 00:17:25,180 this is just more about what it and saying you know that's the sugar in 264 00:17:25,180 --> 00:17:29,760 your we can see they do great things they have you know several minute several 265 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:35,350 million computers now in mostly verbal countries where kids are using these and learning how 266 00:17:35,350 --> 00:17:40,200 to develop and learning how to use computers and you learning how to read for 267 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,220 that matter you know some of these i know they've done experiments S 268 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:49,030 that might be 269 00:17:49,550 --> 00:17:50,820 but 270 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:57,520 in that you know that it's just it's a great project since a great idea 271 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:00,120 but there needs to be an easier way to get a hold of it 272 00:18:02,260 --> 00:18:06,820 when we when kids get the high school there is google coding which i really 273 00:18:06,820 --> 00:18:09,920 wish existed you know ten fifteen years ago when i was in his local i 274 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:15,620 totally would've done that but google colin according to straight but it has the same 275 00:18:15,620 --> 00:18:20,340 limiting factor a summer of code which is that it's only code and it's only 276 00:18:20,340 --> 00:18:21,270 for high school students 277 00:18:21,990 --> 00:18:26,420 and it's not super well advertise so lots and lots and lots of people don't 278 00:18:26,420 --> 00:18:27,270 know what it this 279 00:18:27,830 --> 00:18:32,190 and it needs to be more well what advertised and it need and we need 280 00:18:32,190 --> 00:18:36,090 something very similar but that is not purely code 281 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:40,460 and that is so different way to get in to free software for kids and 282 00:18:40,460 --> 00:18:45,410 for people generally for that matter different ways for them to become involved 283 00:18:54,300 --> 00:18:55,040 possibly 284 00:18:56,420 --> 00:18:57,500 that's an idea 285 00:18:59,660 --> 00:19:02,480 that that's a great idea i'm i think about it right 286 00:19:05,090 --> 00:19:11,690 so what do we need is we need some way to bring kids and something 287 00:19:11,690 --> 00:19:15,550 that's fun that they want to play anyways this is one of my voice favourite 288 00:19:15,550 --> 00:19:20,150 games on the computer the super talks i assume probably some of you have put 289 00:19:20,150 --> 00:19:22,760 that's once or twice i have the sensually mario 290 00:19:23,740 --> 00:19:25,030 so why 291 00:19:26,300 --> 00:19:29,360 it is still one it's a platform are the basic 292 00:19:31,940 --> 00:19:34,200 these english true is applied 293 00:19:35,340 --> 00:19:39,810 but i want super talks my boards also projects but the question is and this 294 00:19:39,810 --> 00:19:45,140 much follows the mass talk and this mobile as wise and or why isn't super 295 00:19:45,140 --> 00:19:50,190 talks easy to change why is in it why don't we make it a way 296 00:19:50,190 --> 00:19:53,420 for people for kids to make new level to make their own levels 297 00:19:53,820 --> 00:19:55,680 that maybe you have to be the game first 298 00:19:56,210 --> 00:19:59,110 but once you beat it now you can go in and you can usually design 299 00:19:59,110 --> 00:19:59,830 your own levels 300 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:04,390 why can't you make different tim to make the physics of the game a little 301 00:20:04,390 --> 00:20:08,640 bit different even if it's just to change it so that instead of running on 302 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,420 the bottom maybe run on the top of the street 303 00:20:11,250 --> 00:20:16,310 maybe you flow maybe you can fly now and different design different things why in 304 00:20:16,310 --> 00:20:21,050 free software can't we make it easy to use and easy to play and 305 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:23,140 and go from there 306 00:20:25,460 --> 00:20:32,050 and that in programs that focus on freedom that focus on promoting and explaining freedom 307 00:20:32,050 --> 00:20:35,620 as in as and it's yours as and we've given you supertopics 308 00:20:36,050 --> 00:20:40,280 and now it's yours and now you can play with it and you can design 309 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,320 new levels and you can give a 310 00:20:44,550 --> 00:20:45,780 is there a little there's 311 00:20:46,330 --> 00:20:46,950 that's also 312 00:20:49,950 --> 00:20:50,470 right 313 00:20:52,780 --> 00:20:56,580 right so but so we should be able to change the dynamics of it why 314 00:20:56,580 --> 00:20:59,890 can't why can't we i mean it's free right can't we can't we figure out 315 00:20:59,890 --> 00:21:02,660 some way to do this and i'm not a good enough programmer that i can 316 00:21:02,660 --> 00:21:03,490 see that i can do this 317 00:21:05,360 --> 00:21:10,790 and aside from that you know in schools around the world there are some countries 318 00:21:10,790 --> 00:21:15,760 that are trying to move which free software some highlights are brazil where there's five 319 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:20,410 million people in this five hundred thousand schools using free software which is amazing and 320 00:21:20,410 --> 00:21:21,660 also and i'm so jealous 321 00:21:23,090 --> 00:21:29,280 in spain that make eczema data is moving so open source and they've install dbn 322 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:34,920 on forty thousand desktops which is pretty awesome and highlight just a few days ago 323 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:39,850 order one point two million enjoy tablets to give out to their students which is 324 00:21:39,850 --> 00:21:44,340 i know it's not it's not really frame but it's better than that more during 325 00:21:44,340 --> 00:21:45,210 our sex come on 326 00:21:46,900 --> 00:21:51,110 it's better than them ordering windows tablets i would much prefer to see people use 327 00:21:51,110 --> 00:21:56,410 enjoyed rather than windows or oversexed because at least it something different and it is 328 00:21:56,410 --> 00:21:59,510 it's a third option that is becoming silly available 329 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:00,950 and 330 00:22:01,630 --> 00:22:05,600 aside from that there for schools there are some cost management application 331 00:22:06,090 --> 00:22:10,550 which i honestly i and when i looked this up and follows information i can't 332 00:22:10,550 --> 00:22:15,130 understand why schools don't use these more other than that they're somewhat limited 333 00:22:15,660 --> 00:22:20,960 but there's all sorts of different ways that we can be promoting ourselves to schools 334 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:25,600 because it's they have some way to use it as their management software and realise 335 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:29,080 that this works then maybe they're gonna be more likely to use it for their 336 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:29,710 desktops 337 00:22:30,340 --> 00:22:33,700 "'cause" right now in the us and i'm sure on the world there are millions 338 00:22:33,700 --> 00:22:38,700 of people with X P on their systems that is going to be completely obsolete 339 00:22:38,700 --> 00:22:39,740 in twenty fourteen 340 00:22:40,230 --> 00:22:44,640 and at that point what happens what happens all those people what happens all those 341 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,080 tools in those libraries 342 00:22:46,450 --> 00:22:50,190 some of which exist in my town that have these old systems that the now 343 00:22:50,190 --> 00:22:52,070 they're gonna be forced upgrade or something else 344 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:57,640 and can we can we promote ourselves to them to try and get them to 345 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,210 move to say you don't have to buy new hardware 346 00:23:00,780 --> 00:23:03,790 because so many places of right now of course or so it's got okay they 347 00:23:03,790 --> 00:23:05,930 have no money for new computers 348 00:23:06,890 --> 00:23:08,790 or for new licenses or anything else 349 00:23:11,330 --> 00:23:14,330 and that's pretty much all i have there's any questions 350 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:25,110 yes 351 00:23:42,910 --> 00:23:47,780 yes this day and one is the but you know i was just wondering 352 00:23:49,350 --> 00:23:49,890 and 353 00:23:50,660 --> 00:23:51,810 how you 354 00:23:52,770 --> 00:23:53,730 you just 355 00:23:54,130 --> 00:23:56,450 expansion it's two kids 356 00:23:56,860 --> 00:24:00,240 i like travelling that's what we go on a lots of field trips more or 357 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:05,190 less constantly so that day after i get back i get back to do and 358 00:24:05,190 --> 00:24:09,610 ohio something like ten thirty eleven o'clock at night and the next morning i'm getting 359 00:24:09,610 --> 00:24:14,660 up at probably edition packing a want and around nine will be leaving and going 360 00:24:14,660 --> 00:24:19,730 teenager readers which is a program and that's that happens every other week for the 361 00:24:19,730 --> 00:24:22,740 summer but then throughout the school year we go one lots of field trips to 362 00:24:22,740 --> 00:24:27,160 museums to science and it's amazing how much that's going on for kids that you 363 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,680 don't know about and so you start looking i mean in my area when i 364 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,570 i've make it was in school i didn't even lot "'cause" i didn't care right 365 00:24:34,570 --> 00:24:37,880 but once you said you didn't wanna school i spent the next 366 00:24:38,650 --> 00:24:41,090 two or three months "'cause" that was in 367 00:24:41,590 --> 00:24:44,680 october ish east are to complain he didn't wanna go and i pull them out 368 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:49,550 after christmas so for the next two or three months i spent online looking up 369 00:24:49,550 --> 00:24:55,140 all different things and can see i can hear i can show you my calendar 370 00:24:55,140 --> 00:24:55,700 of stuff 371 00:24:58,070 --> 00:24:59,980 well that's weird where's 372 00:25:08,860 --> 00:25:14,580 open of evolution of stuff that we do which and everything that on this counter 373 00:25:14,580 --> 00:25:17,740 we don't go to we couldn't if we wanted to 374 00:25:18,810 --> 00:25:21,400 so all of the 375 00:25:23,410 --> 00:25:24,230 see 376 00:25:24,700 --> 00:25:25,930 yes all of 377 00:25:27,610 --> 00:25:29,000 here let me take off mine 378 00:25:30,410 --> 00:25:31,220 and kevin's 379 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:36,260 so all of that is all the stuff that there is to do within an 380 00:25:36,260 --> 00:25:40,190 hour so strive of where i live which is the middle of nowhere as you 381 00:25:40,190 --> 00:25:45,870 also earlier so we don't do all this because frankly you can a lot of 382 00:25:45,870 --> 00:25:46,670 the conflicts 383 00:25:47,050 --> 00:25:52,210 but this is constantly this is what this is august and i have this and 384 00:25:52,210 --> 00:25:56,270 this is just what's plan right now as of a few weeks ago i'm constantly 385 00:25:56,270 --> 00:25:57,820 adding new stuff to this 386 00:25:59,580 --> 00:26:04,180 this is you know september and it just goes on a not we're joining a 387 00:26:04,180 --> 00:26:05,460 colour as of 388 00:26:05,740 --> 00:26:09,890 i think the first meeting three days in august twenty eight and then every 389 00:26:10,450 --> 00:26:14,070 or less every other we will be up in akron which is like an hour 390 00:26:14,070 --> 00:26:18,500 and a half away for a includes the core with i think there's ninety kids 391 00:26:18,500 --> 00:26:19,200 michael 392 00:26:20,070 --> 00:26:30,080 that so close to each by using the there's tons of stuff to do 393 00:26:39,970 --> 00:26:44,110 i think i think in order to get kids involved at the university level we 394 00:26:44,110 --> 00:26:48,400 need to start them when they're young little when they're young and i mean that's 395 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,560 what summer of code is a great way to push it that way but how 396 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,400 in the question of course is how do we get like the people who are 397 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:58,420 in the design and other things to join us and help us design better going 398 00:26:58,420 --> 00:27:02,420 on three you know and i think that's what maybe the at we program for 399 00:27:02,420 --> 00:27:06,350 men to some of that and maybe we need a larger outreach program for just 400 00:27:06,350 --> 00:27:08,840 general people to bring them all in 401 00:27:09,100 --> 00:27:13,450 that to say that you can come and work on free software in ways outside 402 00:27:13,450 --> 00:27:16,920 of code outside of summer of go there are other ways to get involved and 403 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:17,420 to have 404 00:27:17,900 --> 00:27:20,200 cut to give contributions and give back 405 00:27:20,580 --> 00:27:21,870 and start using 406 00:27:32,780 --> 00:27:39,000 our end users do to have your software applications change it and change its behaviour 407 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:44,190 and abstract thing that program in layer that it's not gonna bar years that you 408 00:27:44,190 --> 00:27:47,610 might be interested in a yes absolutely different way to do that 409 00:27:49,340 --> 00:27:50,330 anything else 410 00:27:52,730 --> 00:27:59,850 okay do you have a credit know follow know education this to of a question 411 00:27:59,850 --> 00:28:04,540 is for education because you actually time what we have a we have a list 412 00:28:04,540 --> 00:28:08,590 of spatial reno so we can easy call minutes we cover it look at and 413 00:28:08,590 --> 00:28:14,910 the can all location of all need for most cases use and we also use 414 00:28:14,910 --> 00:28:19,860 the P H D T know of for the switch well we also in you 415 00:28:19,860 --> 00:28:20,300 know this 416 00:28:20,900 --> 00:28:24,990 a single this very important you must have at least to have a school in 417 00:28:24,990 --> 00:28:30,010 the for the children for there is to know well all if well this is 418 00:28:30,010 --> 00:28:37,180 a location we could use so would you did you know full it a student 419 00:28:37,180 --> 00:28:42,320 of "'cause" you these also resource know could you can there's and there's if you're 420 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,800 acting there's a resource around more i've of the answer is no at least not 421 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,950 that i'm aware of if there was i would i would love to hear about 422 00:28:48,950 --> 00:28:52,770 it haven't so far it very well may exist that at some university that i 423 00:28:52,770 --> 00:28:54,950 just haven't looked into there 424 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:59,150 top that's available deep enough yet but i certainly haven't heard about it and i 425 00:28:59,150 --> 00:29:03,360 know lots of people who have kids you want someone how to program and they 426 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:07,900 don't know how to help them start and what's out there is just it's not 427 00:29:07,900 --> 00:29:12,240 very good i mean that they can say there's traction there's alice and there's code 428 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:16,940 academy and different things but none of those and all those all they might each 429 00:29:16,940 --> 00:29:21,710 programming but they don't focus on the freedom part which is the problem and i 430 00:29:21,710 --> 00:29:27,740 think that we need to have something and educational program for kids that focuses on 431 00:29:27,740 --> 00:29:32,080 teaching now and of way that's fine but that also is teaching them about the 432 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:37,110 principles of free software and why that's important why is it important that it's free 433 00:29:37,110 --> 00:29:40,100 not just how to do it but why that important that you're releasing your source 434 00:29:40,100 --> 00:29:43,310 code and that you're contributing in you know when you're putting it on get how 435 00:29:43,310 --> 00:29:45,310 and it's open and it's free 436 00:29:59,510 --> 00:29:59,720 i 437 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:09,770 so i propose how do you think that we it's a community can reach large 438 00:30:09,770 --> 00:30:13,490 numbers of young people outside of just the ones that we interact with them our 439 00:30:13,490 --> 00:30:15,040 communities and families 440 00:30:15,580 --> 00:30:19,850 what it is about that we thought about that's what that's kind of what i'm 441 00:30:19,850 --> 00:30:23,550 trying to get is that i think we need a we need invent super talks 442 00:30:23,550 --> 00:30:29,110 and invent a way to change it and release it and marketing and use what 443 00:30:29,110 --> 00:30:33,370 we have in free software to market it and show what's the kids and make 444 00:30:33,370 --> 00:30:38,480 it become somehow the cool new now that kids then to download because they want 445 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,280 to download and it needs to run on linux obviously but it also need to 446 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:45,400 run on android i'm probably on O S X so that kids there can download 447 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,710 it and look at it and play with it because let's be honest it most 448 00:30:49,710 --> 00:30:53,900 kids are not running you know as much as we might want them to 449 00:31:00,300 --> 00:31:00,690 i 450 00:31:06,810 --> 00:31:07,560 anything else 451 00:31:09,300 --> 00:31:09,820 friend again 452 00:31:13,340 --> 00:31:18,460 i guess i would love to go to schools but i don't i don't know 453 00:31:18,460 --> 00:31:22,750 quite how to approach them they're hard to approach at least one that i try 454 00:31:22,750 --> 00:31:26,890 to put some for other various things and how do you how do you go 455 00:31:26,890 --> 00:31:30,400 and tell them i wanna expose your kids to this and a lot of them 456 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:36,510 are just at least write a are very resistant anyone outside of themselves because they're 457 00:31:36,510 --> 00:31:39,470 all about their funding and what they have already 458 00:31:47,650 --> 00:31:48,030 right 459 00:31:48,900 --> 00:31:52,440 so that there were you had it he had in their of some waiting to 460 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,880 get in already but if you don't have that in if you're me and i 461 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,070 don't really know any teachers in the schools how to way how do i find 462 00:31:59,070 --> 00:32:02,790 that person that will give me access and let me come in and help their 463 00:32:02,790 --> 00:32:03,540 kids learn 464 00:32:06,510 --> 00:32:15,760 thing and mobile welcome you slowly connections with my high school elementary schools most people 465 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:21,930 probably assume new people who wants to really score elementary schools are teaching better 466 00:32:24,050 --> 00:32:28,420 i have my name my brother i know lots of people around but i don't 467 00:32:28,420 --> 00:32:32,100 know anyone who actually works for the schools in that capacity 468 00:32:33,270 --> 00:32:38,160 i didn't go to school so i don't have a teacher's i well i have 469 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:43,040 well i have a huge network of friends but mostly all of them have scattered 470 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:47,980 they're all over there's in california one just went got sweden 471 00:32:48,690 --> 00:32:50,010 they're just everywhere 472 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:06,800 more comment and a question really but in my high school learning computers was lenny 473 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:11,440 microsoft office and proprietary programs the right and really interested in finding with the stuff 474 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,760 that right now that's what i when i was in college i had to take 475 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:19,570 microsoft office my hasn't acted to take it twice because they wouldn't accept any to 476 00:33:19,570 --> 00:33:22,950 next office two thousand and three when he went back to school for years later 477 00:33:22,950 --> 00:33:27,230 and with that thousand seven to the different class take it again which just drove 478 00:33:27,230 --> 00:33:27,840 me crazy 479 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:29,980 and him crazy 480 00:33:31,010 --> 00:33:36,660 also more of a comment than a question the what you mentioned with changing the 481 00:33:36,660 --> 00:33:41,090 physics of the game reminded me of the of the talk about project or maybe 482 00:33:41,090 --> 00:33:45,440 you some of you know it's like where you can added the code like you 483 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,840 can you can directly edit the code and see how it how it influences the 484 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:54,180 games i would influence the trajectory of the jump for example right i think that 485 00:33:54,180 --> 00:33:58,130 would be great like not only for kids like for everyone but especially for kids 486 00:33:58,130 --> 00:34:02,510 you can usually see you want you slide the value for a little gravity and 487 00:34:02,510 --> 00:34:06,880 see how the john trajectory that was that would be perfect that we did something 488 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,810 very simple that they can slide this and you're changing it from dying ten to 489 00:34:10,810 --> 00:34:12,850 twenty and what does that change 490 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,560 so you might mention is already "'cause" the came in late but 491 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:26,610 and that tell you know in the ski know mentioned having again the people can 492 00:34:26,610 --> 00:34:30,980 actually at the right word from was this like connected to the yes 493 00:34:31,670 --> 00:34:35,310 yes that was all that's what the one other thing that matt said that i 494 00:34:35,310 --> 00:34:38,700 think it's absolutely yes and it comes back to where i live just in the 495 00:34:38,700 --> 00:34:42,740 middle of nowhere i don't have high speed internet so his idea of having a 496 00:34:42,740 --> 00:34:48,170 way to update your system with their remote key is just genius i do that 497 00:34:48,170 --> 00:34:51,280 all the time and that i take my like my laptop to the library but 498 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:55,940 it's true my kids laptop gets updated infrequently at best because it means running a 499 00:34:55,940 --> 00:34:58,860 cable to it and then telling them they're not allowed to play with it for 500 00:34:58,860 --> 00:35:03,430 like a day well the downloads because i downloaded ten or twenty kilobits a second 501 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,000 on a bad it drops to five 502 00:35:11,850 --> 00:35:12,660 but yes 503 00:35:13,300 --> 00:35:14,260 i record that 504 00:35:18,740 --> 00:35:19,710 it's 505 00:35:20,410 --> 00:35:21,040 yes 506 00:35:22,870 --> 00:35:25,330 yes but it's been years and years and years 507 00:35:25,930 --> 00:35:26,590 but yes 508 00:35:28,020 --> 00:35:30,770 that sort is that sort of stuff to change things 509 00:35:33,290 --> 00:35:33,970 yes 510 00:35:40,610 --> 00:35:40,940 that