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<r t="9.45">so i think about fast education this is one of my favourite quotes about education</r>
<r t="14.3">i had to go to graduate was from this</r>
<r t="18.22">i've just had it around for a long time which is education is what is</r>
<r t="21.6">what is that when you forgot not of so after you've been through all the</r>
<r t="24.98">tests</r>
<r t="25.8">and you don't really remember all the little bits and pieces that's what's that's what's</r>
<r t="30.61">left and we think about education</r>
<r t="33.9">so</r>
<r t="35.37">i was home schooled</r>
<r t="37.53">i was actually well i like so people in the third grade dropout that's the</r>
<r t="42.05">fun way to say i went through third grade and i was actually home schooled</r>
<r t="47.04">for the first half of kindergarten when i was are we little K and i</r>
<r t="50.1">remember that being a lot more fun than school and i convince my mom to</r>
<r t="53.45">put me out of school and go back to homeschooling</r>
<r t="56.16">and from so from fourth grade and still</r>
<r t="59.83">i took the A C which is a college example and us when i was</r>
<r t="64.49">eighteen i never took any more tests</r>
<r t="68.52">and it was it was great that's what i actually you graduate from high school</r>
<r t="73.41">though because in us there's something called come our school which is an umbrella school</r>
<r t="78.88">so for home schoolers that want a standard transcript and the standard</r>
<r t="85.05">a high school diploma for just purposes it use of applying to colleges and what</r>
<r t="90.35">not you can in the rolling can or school and actually have an international school</r>
<r t="95.7">they also have a base in germany actually</r>
<r t="98.37">as well and they actually all they also have a campus cool it's in ann</r>
<r t="102.23">arbour michigan which is about a four and a half hour drive from my house</r>
<r t="106.92">so i've been there a few times</r>
<r t="108.87">over the years</r>
<r t="110.64">and i graduated you doesn't do actually graduated here really</r>
<r t="115.11">i didn't actually know this until about six months before i graduated because we had</r>
<r t="120.16">the we had these things called credit report forms where you filled out what classes</r>
<r t="123.41">you were taking and how many hours you're done for this or that</r>
<r t="126.36">and i had failed to send in mind for the second year so the middle</r>
<r t="131.78">of the third year so i didn't really realise how much i have done that</r>
<r t="135.65">second year and up till then and i realise when i was going to say</r>
<r t="140.35">that in that i had gotten something like four credit hours the last year and</r>
<r t="145.28">i only needed like six or eight or something for that year and so i</r>
<r t="149.74">remember my dad came home from working as like so i guess what i graduated</r>
<r t="154.42">it was fun</r>
<r t="156.47">i don't have is waiting this year actually so i guess i'm gonna have to</r>
<r t="160.52">do something else "'cause" at that point i was looking into applying for a</r>
<r t="166.27">us foreign exchange student program or</r>
<r t="168.76">and all strip something fun for my senior but</r>
<r t="173.8">in any case i graduated and because i graduate a year early i didn't have</r>
<r t="177.09">time to apply to the school that actually wanted to go to which was in</r>
<r t="179.97">alaska at that point my plan was to be a marine biologist</r>
<r t="183.93">i'd forgotten how much i hated school</r>
<r t="186.34">i quickly remembered when i went to a little can stay interest grows which is</r>
<r t="191.7">like their satellite school near me and i went there for one semester and remembered</r>
<r t="196.5">how much i hated school and sitting in mostly people talk and writing things down</r>
<r t="201.3">so i then transferred down talking college which is also in ohio and a talking</r>
<r t="207.52">i may be injured have to so she's from them there</r>
<r t="211.39">not really super useful at this point there in that customers mention and natural resource</r>
<r t="215.59">management</r>
<r t="216.85">so about as far away from computer science as you can get</r>
<r t="221.64">it was a fun school and of last time at my husband there</r>
<r t="225.07">and</r>
<r t="226.78">i since then i spent a year in spain in two thousand five because i</r>
<r t="230.36">want to learn spanish F we would approve when i realised that i should really</r>
<r t="233.73">learn spanish of from gonna travel that way</r>
<r t="236.68">at least three more useful language and so it's been a year there in learn</r>
<r t="240.24">spanish and came home and</r>
<r t="242.35">what not</r>
<r t="243.8">so</r>
<r t="244.95">something that's adjusting</r>
<r t="246.37">or for most people to realise that i live in the middle of nowhere and</r>
<r t="249.21">i see that jokingly and most people don't really believe me but if you see</r>
<r t="253.74">at the end here</r>
<r t="255.74">at the at the very end of that white line there's a little white spot</r>
<r t="259.73">and that's actually the roof of the cab that my dad lives in we live</r>
<r t="263.46">in the other sort of creamy college but there this is all a wider of</r>
<r t="267.95">this is about like a mile or fight so about a half mile probably almost</r>
<r t="273.52">so a larger view that the carolyn up there is that's the county see</r>
<r t="278.72">the other little mark what the name of here</r>
<r t="282.23">that story that's where my son went to school for a year and a half</r>
<r t="286.2">i guess you'd at your public preschool this is you like that you love that</r>
<r t="290.97">and then he did about a month of kindergarten maybe to any sort of complaining</r>
<r t="296.61">didn't wanna go and</r>
<r t="298.59">i couldn't blame "'em" i hate school i guess that i remember that</r>
<r t="302.57">whenever i go back so i pull them out and now we're homeschooling so in</r>
<r t="306.77">the us</r>
<r t="308.3">homeschooling accounts for about three percent of the population of gets as of two thousand</r>
<r t="313.03">and seven in nineteen seventy two was when it started to become legal it i</r>
<r t="318.02">don't know when it really became completely legal in the us where people were worried</r>
<r t="321.68">anymore "'cause" when i was home schooling originally in the eighties and the early nineties</r>
<r t="326.93">it was still sort of an iffy proposition which is why my family join come</r>
<r t="330.68">are originally because they were way to be sort of safe and not worry about</r>
<r t="335.73">the law that if you got in trouble</r>
<r t="338.38">and more would represent you</r>
<r t="341.61">so why we home school is because well i it just doesn't wanna go to</r>
<r t="346.24">school</r>
<r t="347.56">and then be is because like in school can if you think of the world</r>
<r t="352.09">and what there is to learn about it as a as a pie chart which</r>
<r t="355.05">is the blue in school kids they get they get this little section right they</r>
<r t="359.08">get this section of the world of exposure to different things a different ideas at</r>
<r t="363.66">school but they miss out on a whole bunch more because the world is not</r>
<r t="366.81">just school as we all know who have gone away and moved on from school</r>
<r t="372">and the before what a lot of people have a problem with home schooling and</r>
<r t="375.8">us is because so many people want school for religious really which isn't me but</r>
<r t="380.1">they really just want to lose</r>
<r t="381.86">because they want expose their kids to this to this tiny sliver of the world</r>
<r t="386.67">of a little bit of education and of there</r>
<r t="389.63">they're very small view of the world which i don't agree with and hopefully most</r>
<r t="395.76">people don't agree with but there's lots of them and us to do</r>
<r t="399.04">but i don't school because i wanna suppose make is to this which is everything</r>
<r t="402.68">which is everything that there is so mostly what we deal with home schoolers</r>
<r t="406.95">is me read books and we play games</r>
<r t="410.02">and we acknowledge that</r>
<r t="413.48">that we're always learning your learning something right now i'm running something right now were</r>
<r t="419.18">always learning something</r>
<r t="420.85">learning never starts and it never stops and so you die from them when you're</r>
<r t="424.05">born so and schooling is what we really doing i've been saying i'm home schooling</r>
<r t="428.42">that's</r>
<r t="429.26">technically sure that's what i tell the government but actually what i'm doing is called</r>
<r t="433.16">on schooling and</r>
<r t="435.32">when i grew up i was in school or i didn't actually know that like</r>
<r t="438.39">that's about high school college and realised that we were actually on schooling</r>
<r t="442.68">and this is a quote from john whole it was sort of the father of</r>
<r t="447.46">a lot of homeschooling he's right here a whole bunch of books in the i</r>
<r t="452.08">think the late seventies well when you started writing through the eighties</r>
<r t="455.66">about education and kids and how kids learn and it you know to trust children</r>
<r t="461.52">is the hardest thing that we can possibly do because most of us grew up</r>
<r t="465.91">not being told that we weren't we couldn't be trusted</r>
<r t="469.9">that we couldn't be trusted only in order to learn you had to go to</r>
<r t="472.5">school and sit down and read a book and you worksheets intake test</r>
<r t="478.31">so these are just a couple of other quotes from john whole</r>
<r t="483.82">and it it's true that's what</r>
<r t="486.82">you know if you think about it were always learning and everything we do and</r>
<r t="491.07">my biggest example might you six example for most people is legos because probably all</r>
<r t="497.8">this have played with legos right at anyone in here not that with like that</r>
<r t="500.85">this do that</r>
<r t="502.84">you've never like this like this</r>
<r t="505.46">now</r>
<r t="511.22">i okay so you play with the spanish version of like this</r>
<r t="515.92">okay so</r>
<r t="518.19">i</r>
<r t="520.86">i</r>
<r t="522.82">i so means that my voice the little one facing us is key in he's</r>
<r t="528.83">well will be for on wednesday and yellow that it was used would use as</r>
<r t="533.39">well homeschooling now and this is mostly my collection of like those there's some that</r>
<r t="538.01">they have gotten for birthdays and christmas and the last couple years</r>
<r t="541.66">this is a very common picture our room when you walk in our house this</r>
<r t="546.09">happens at least once a day that it that's for the legos people down and</r>
<r t="549.92">usually there are all they're not always sometimes</r>
<r t="553.55">sometimes they get put away because you know i need to vacuum the floor or</r>
<r t="556.22">something or i just wanna do something else besides the one that goes first up</r>
<r t="559.59">around i guess because as we all know stepping on the was a slightly painful</r>
<r t="564.62">i actually had a cut in my for a few months ago from a lego</r>
<r t="568.37">that somehow i stepped on just perfectly wrong and it was actually leading it was</r>
<r t="572.38">really painful but so legos</r>
<r t="575.42">when you think about it</r>
<r t="577.15">when you learn when you're building with legos when you're playing with</r>
<r t="580.78">what do you and your learning how to count how to add how to subtract</r>
<r t="585.49">how to build things how to you are really about map all about science and</r>
<r t="590.56">engineering right you're learning about all kinds of things about our how to design how</r>
<r t="595.97">to make things look good how to you know versus building something with the jumble</r>
<r t="600.24">of colours verses all the same colour my son still in the stage where he's</r>
<r t="603.62">just i need this piece i don't care what colour this i'm sure that will</r>
<r t="607.13">change eventually but right now he doesn't care we just want to build things</r>
<r t="613.37">so</r>
<r t="614.46">that that's just my example to get you thinking of the of how to think</r>
<r t="617.95">about on schooling so and computers and actually this is my voice computer just to</r>
<r t="623.93">the right of it is their bunk beds there's at least are sitting there charging</r>
<r t="628.78">which is a also constant battle</r>
<r t="632.52">but what we use is we use this all that stuff this was my high</r>
<r t="635.79">school graduation present it was a great pc</r>
<r t="639.07">back and it works so works fine but actually runs X F C E or</r>
<r t="643.18">actually the going to be exact because it just won't quite run you know actually</r>
<r t="648.29">haven't tried but i'm pretty confident five hundred megs of ram and it'll P for</r>
<r t="652.76">is probably not sufficient</r>
<r t="654.95">they also use a lot of lifters they play with those most in the car</r>
<r t="659.06">and there's all kinds of great games that each in different things</r>
<r t="663.55">and they also plan like that what i have a pain kind which was the</r>
<r t="665.87">kick starter i think over christmas so it's a tablet that's of three tablet it</r>
<r t="671.65">runs it had to a version of and run it but i can also stick</r>
<r t="674.95">in a little S P card and it'll boot into linux</r>
<r t="680.42">and i think it's relative see that on it they also play with obviously are</r>
<r t="684.07">small are enjoyed smartphones the computer and my laptop occasionally when i let them play</r>
<r t="689.93">with it which is unusual because there for in six and i don't know if</r>
<r t="694.16">you have little kids but they're slightly on the destructive side</r>
<r t="698.75">so as far as applications that we use in that they have access to every</r>
<r t="701.65">day there's a lot more than this</r>
<r t="705.17">mostly that they love to play games obvious is all it's do they play talk</r>
<r t="709.75">smack effects typing all the time those are games of them they also play a</r>
<r t="714.17">or i don't know if you've heard of this it's another application it's these are</r>
<r t="718.48">all they're fairly basic they start out adding and subtracting you believe they going to</r>
<r t="723.09">multiplication and division my guys haven't gotten anywhere near there yet but i'm sure they</r>
<r t="727.66">will eventually there's also you can pre which is a gonna project and you can</r>
<r t="732.49">pre has a ton of stuff and it's a suite of programs so there's all</r>
<r t="736.18">sorts of games there's all sorts of writing programs there's you know there's reading when</r>
<r t="742.66">you A B C's how to count it all sorts of things some of our</r>
<r t="745.99">summer go students last year real programs that added in stuff about space and physics</r>
<r t="750.95">and stuff which was really cool and really fun to have</r>
<r t="754.54">they also play a few games on our tablets and things this is swords and</r>
<r t="758.52">soldiers does anyone your plate swords and soldiers</r>
<r t="761.51">it was in a whole bundle which is how i have it "'cause" i've been</r>
<r t="764.85">buying most of the humble one of things are bottles for a long time this</r>
<r t="768.62">is one of the my voice favourite games</r>
<r t="771.6">this is a great example of how kids are just sponges and learn things</r>
<r t="775.48">we were at a museum dedicated lately this a few times and we write a</r>
<r t="779.49">museum in ohio and it had big a displays about different cultures and one of</r>
<r t="785.79">them was the chinese and it was like okay see and the chinese invented gunpowder</r>
<r t="790.39">and my son and just went away that i want</r>
<r t="793.98">right you learn where did where did we possibly go over trying to think anyway</r>
<r t="797.83">sergeant sort of someone in and insertions orders there's the vikings what you see right</r>
<r t="803.24">now and there's also chinese and aspects that you can play as and the chinese</r>
<r t="808.06">have gotten harder they have guns because they invented gunpowder and that's how my son</r>
<r t="812.87">learned chinese the did gunpowder which just kind of made me laugh and it still</r>
<r t="816.46">makes you have to think about it that just random things that they pick up</r>
<r t="820.26">everywhere constantly</r>
<r t="824.32">as far as other ways that we have for kids to learn about computers is</r>
<r t="829.33">there's this thing called scratch and their motto is imagine program share it's done by</r>
<r t="834.76">mit my voice haven't messed with that it's mostly online</r>
<r t="839.08">and they haven't quite got to that point they're not quite reading but i i'm</r>
<r t="845.13">hoping to introduce this fall and when i get back and getting some more different</r>
<r t="849.93">things and stop there's also alice i don't know much about alice i was trying</r>
<r t="853.49">to look it up the last couple days hopefully i i'd like to introduce all</r>
<r t="858.72">the but the problem that we have with kids in computers is that in school</r>
<r t="863.67">or even at home most people have what they have windows or they have mac</r>
<r t="867.62">and so that's what kids are being taught right now is there learning about windows</r>
<r t="871.82">there learning about mac and how to run their not learning anything about free software</r>
<r t="876.3">they're not wearing anything about how to run it</r>
<r t="879.38">or it's ideals and what's behind it and as a result</r>
<r t="884.63">we don't have much for them right and still they get to</r>
<r t="889.76">to call it really there's some other things here and there but in until we</r>
<r t="893.7">get to college most people most kids aren't really exposed in any way shape or</r>
<r t="897.66">form a believe it's a college you're not generally exposed to for software and by</r>
<r t="902.14">that time you've lost them because they've already become set in their ways and what</r>
<r t="907.62">they use what they know</r>
<r t="909.35">and if we wanna add more people to pass generally to get known</r>
<r t="915.59">we need to figure out some way to reach out long before they get to</r>
<r t="919.65">college</r>
<r t="920.67">some way to reach out and grab them</r>
<r t="923.54">and something to get them thinking there's also there's also sugar of course which is</r>
<r t="929.4">an out should of the one a proper trial that's who was originally developed for</r>
<r t="935.02">and sugars great but their problem is sugars a fairly basic</r>
<r t="940.25">and it's</r>
<r t="941.04">kind of hard to get you have to know how do at least install linux</r>
<r t="944.12">or at least be willing to trying bring something to we use P key which</r>
<r t="948.98">is not something most people know how to do for first</r>
<r t="953.03">for first way in to fox i love sure i haven't got a my voice</r>
<r t="957.88">computer yet at some point i'll probably give that a try</r>
<r t="962.31">you know that's with the other problem with the one leftover trout program is they</r>
<r t="965.33">have these all something like that the excellent have a that's coming out shortly and</r>
<r t="969.69">i would love to have a couple of these for my voice but i have</r>
<r t="972.88">no way to get them because they only are sold by the hundred i think</r>
<r t="977.51">i do we have a i look up that the minimum order is a hundred</r>
<r t="981.01">and because they're really only find them to schools</r>
<r t="983.83">and they're not really trying to get to them so them the schools even in</r>
<r t="987.08">the us that's what i've</r>
<r t="988.79">played around the idea of trying to get a hundred home schoolers or hundred friends</r>
<r t="992.91">that would want to buy one of these for their kids they're trying to put</r>
<r t="996.43">together a group by but i haven't managed to figure out exactly how to do</r>
<r t="1000.32">that i don't know quite that many people what can kids at least that have</r>
<r t="1004.34">the money to spend a hundred order dollars on a toy is actually for their</r>
<r t="1008.33">kids i would love to do it "'cause" i would love to have one of</r>
<r t="1012.4">these able to have two of them actually because i would need one for each</r>
<r t="1016.57">just what we have we have to be pictures because</r>
<r t="1018.93">one is yes</r>
<r t="1021.19">well and i would not want to but at least to at least to one</r>
<r t="1025.09">for each of them edit their minimum but there needs to be something some way</r>
<r t="1031.24">for people to get fast easily and if even these were available for sale it</r>
<r t="1035.64">would be a lot easier to say you can go buy one but you can</r>
<r t="1040.78">this is just more about what it and saying you know that's the sugar in</r>
<r t="1045.18">your we can see they do great things they have you know several minute several</r>
<r t="1049.76">million computers now in mostly verbal countries where kids are using these and learning how</r>
<r t="1055.35">to develop and learning how to use computers and you learning how to read for</r>
<r t="1060.2">that matter you know some of these i know they've done experiments S</r>
<r t="1067.52">that might be</r>
<r t="1069.55">but</r>
<r t="1072.8">in that you know that it's just it's a great project since a great idea</r>
<r t="1077.52">but there needs to be an easier way to get a hold of it</r>
<r t="1082.26">when we when kids get the high school there is google coding which i really</r>
<r t="1086.82">wish existed you know ten fifteen years ago when i was in his local i</r>
<r t="1089.92">totally would've done that but google colin according to straight but it has the same</r>
<r t="1095.62">limiting factor a summer of code which is that it's only code and it's only</r>
<r t="1100.34">for high school students</r>
<r t="1101.99">and it's not super well advertise so lots and lots and lots of people don't</r>
<r t="1106.42">know what it this</r>
<r t="1107.83">and it needs to be more well what advertised and it need and we need</r>
<r t="1112.19">something very similar but that is not purely code</r>
<r t="1116.44">and that is so different way to get in to free software for kids and</r>
<r t="1120.46">for people generally for that matter different ways for them to become involved</r>
<r t="1134.3">possibly</r>
<r t="1136.42">that's an idea</r>
<r t="1139.66">that that's a great idea i'm i think about it right</r>
<r t="1145.09">so what do we need is we need some way to bring kids and something</r>
<r t="1151.69">that's fun that they want to play anyways this is one of my voice favourite</r>
<r t="1155.55">games on the computer the super talks i assume probably some of you have put</r>
<r t="1160.15">that's once or twice i have the sensually mario</r>
<r t="1163.74">so why</r>
<r t="1166.3">it is still one it's a platform are the basic</r>
<r t="1171.94">these english true is applied</r>
<r t="1175.34">but i want super talks my boards also projects but the question is and this</r>
<r t="1179.81">much follows the mass talk and this mobile as wise and or why isn't super</r>
<r t="1185.14">talks easy to change why is in it why don't we make it a way</r>
<r t="1190.19">for people for kids to make new level to make their own levels</r>
<r t="1193.82">that maybe you have to be the game first</r>
<r t="1196.21">but once you beat it now you can go in and you can usually design</r>
<r t="1199.11">your own levels</r>
<r t="1200.48">why can't you make different tim to make the physics of the game a little</r>
<r t="1204.39">bit different even if it's just to change it so that instead of running on</r>
<r t="1208.64">the bottom maybe run on the top of the street</r>
<r t="1211.25">maybe you flow maybe you can fly now and different design different things why in</r>
<r t="1216.31">free software can't we make it easy to use and easy to play and</r>
<r t="1222.08">and go from there</r>
<r t="1225.46">and that in programs that focus on freedom that focus on promoting and explaining freedom</r>
<r t="1232.05">as in as and it's yours as and we've given you supertopics</r>
<r t="1236.05">and now it's yours and now you can play with it and you can design</r>
<r t="1240.28">new levels and you can give a</r>
<r t="1244.55">is there a little there's</r>
<r t="1246.33">that's also</r>
<r t="1249.95">right</r>
<r t="1252.78">right so but so we should be able to change the dynamics of it why</r>
<r t="1256.58">can't why can't we i mean it's free right can't we can't we figure out</r>
<r t="1259.89">some way to do this and i'm not a good enough programmer that i can</r>
<r t="1262.66">see that i can do this</r>
<r t="1265.36">and aside from that you know in schools around the world there are some countries</r>
<r t="1270.79">that are trying to move which free software some highlights are brazil where there's five</r>
<r t="1275.76">million people in this five hundred thousand schools using free software which is amazing and</r>
<r t="1280.41">also and i'm so jealous</r>
<r t="1283.09">in spain that make eczema data is moving so open source and they've install dbn</r>
<r t="1289.28">on forty thousand desktops which is pretty awesome and highlight just a few days ago</r>
<r t="1294.92">order one point two million enjoy tablets to give out to their students which is</r>
<r t="1299.85">i know it's not it's not really frame but it's better than that more during</r>
<r t="1304.34">our sex come on</r>
<r t="1306.9">it's better than them ordering windows tablets i would much prefer to see people use</r>
<r t="1311.11">enjoyed rather than windows or oversexed because at least it something different and it is</r>
<r t="1316.41">it's a third option that is becoming silly available</r>
<r t="1320.28">and</r>
<r t="1321.63">aside from that there for schools there are some cost management application</r>
<r t="1326.09">which i honestly i and when i looked this up and follows information i can't</r>
<r t="1330.55">understand why schools don't use these more other than that they're somewhat limited</r>
<r t="1335.66">but there's all sorts of different ways that we can be promoting ourselves to schools</r>
<r t="1340.96">because it's they have some way to use it as their management software and realise</r>
<r t="1345.6">that this works then maybe they're gonna be more likely to use it for their</r>
<r t="1349.08">desktops</r>
<r t="1350.34">"'cause" right now in the us and i'm sure on the world there are millions</r>
<r t="1353.7">of people with X P on their systems that is going to be completely obsolete</r>
<r t="1358.7">in twenty fourteen</r>
<r t="1360.23">and at that point what happens what happens all those people what happens all those</r>
<r t="1364.64">tools in those libraries</r>
<r t="1366.45">some of which exist in my town that have these old systems that the now</r>
<r t="1370.19">they're gonna be forced upgrade or something else</r>
<r t="1372.84">and can we can we promote ourselves to them to try and get them to</r>
<r t="1377.64">move to say you don't have to buy new hardware</r>
<r t="1380.78">because so many places of right now of course or so it's got okay they</r>
<r t="1383.79">have no money for new computers</r>
<r t="1386.89">or for new licenses or anything else</r>
<r t="1391.33">and that's pretty much all i have there's any questions</r>
<r t="1404.76">yes</r>
<r t="1422.91">yes this day and one is the but you know i was just wondering</r>
<r t="1429.35">and</r>
<r t="1430.66">how you</r>
<r t="1432.77">you just</r>
<r t="1434.13">expansion it's two kids</r>
<r t="1436.86">i like travelling that's what we go on a lots of field trips more or</r>
<r t="1440.24">less constantly so that day after i get back i get back to do and</r>
<r t="1445.19">ohio something like ten thirty eleven o'clock at night and the next morning i'm getting</r>
<r t="1449.61">up at probably edition packing a want and around nine will be leaving and going</r>
<r t="1454.66">teenager readers which is a program and that's that happens every other week for the</r>
<r t="1459.73">summer but then throughout the school year we go one lots of field trips to</r>
<r t="1462.74">museums to science and it's amazing how much that's going on for kids that you</r>
<r t="1467.16">don't know about and so you start looking i mean in my area when i</r>
<r t="1470.68">i've make it was in school i didn't even lot "'cause" i didn't care right</r>
<r t="1474.57">but once you said you didn't wanna school i spent the next</r>
<r t="1478.65">two or three months "'cause" that was in</r>
<r t="1481.59">october ish east are to complain he didn't wanna go and i pull them out</r>
<r t="1484.68">after christmas so for the next two or three months i spent online looking up</r>
<r t="1489.55">all different things and can see i can hear i can show you my calendar</r>
<r t="1495.14">of stuff</r>
<r t="1498.07">well that's weird where's</r>
<r t="1508.86">open of evolution of stuff that we do which and everything that on this counter</r>
<r t="1514.58">we don't go to we couldn't if we wanted to</r>
<r t="1518.81">so all of the</r>
<r t="1523.41">see</r>
<r t="1524.7">yes all of</r>
<r t="1527.61">here let me take off mine</r>
<r t="1530.41">and kevin's</r>
<r t="1532.08">so all of that is all the stuff that there is to do within an</r>
<r t="1536.26">hour so strive of where i live which is the middle of nowhere as you</r>
<r t="1540.19">also earlier so we don't do all this because frankly you can a lot of</r>
<r t="1545.87">the conflicts</r>
<r t="1547.05">but this is constantly this is what this is august and i have this and</r>
<r t="1552.21">this is just what's plan right now as of a few weeks ago i'm constantly</r>
<r t="1556.27">adding new stuff to this</r>
<r t="1559.58">this is you know september and it just goes on a not we're joining a</r>
<r t="1564.18">colour as of</r>
<r t="1565.74">i think the first meeting three days in august twenty eight and then every</r>
<r t="1570.45">or less every other we will be up in akron which is like an hour</r>
<r t="1574.07">and a half away for a includes the core with i think there's ninety kids</r>
<r t="1578.5">michael</r>
<r t="1580.07">that so close to each by using the there's tons of stuff to do</r>
<r t="1599.97">i think i think in order to get kids involved at the university level we</r>
<r t="1604.11">need to start them when they're young little when they're young and i mean that's</r>
<r t="1608.4">what summer of code is a great way to push it that way but how</r>
<r t="1611.56">in the question of course is how do we get like the people who are</r>
<r t="1614.4">in the design and other things to join us and help us design better going</r>
<r t="1618.42">on three you know and i think that's what maybe the at we program for</r>
<r t="1622.42">men to some of that and maybe we need a larger outreach program for just</r>
<r t="1626.35">general people to bring them all in</r>
<r t="1629.1">that to say that you can come and work on free software in ways outside</r>
<r t="1633.45">of code outside of summer of go there are other ways to get involved and</r>
<r t="1636.92">to have</r>
<r t="1637.9">cut to give contributions and give back</r>
<r t="1640.58">and start using</r>
<r t="1652.78">our end users do to have your software applications change it and change its behaviour</r>
<r t="1659">and abstract thing that program in layer that it's not gonna bar years that you</r>
<r t="1664.19">might be interested in a yes absolutely different way to do that</r>
<r t="1669.34">anything else</r>
<r t="1672.73">okay do you have a credit know follow know education this to of a question</r>
<r t="1679.85">is for education because you actually time what we have a we have a list</r>
<r t="1684.54">of spatial reno so we can easy call minutes we cover it look at and</r>
<r t="1688.59">the can all location of all need for most cases use and we also use</r>
<r t="1694.91">the P H D T know of for the switch well we also in you</r>
<r t="1699.86">know this</r>
<r t="1700.9">a single this very important you must have at least to have a school in</r>
<r t="1704.99">the for the children for there is to know well all if well this is</r>
<r t="1710.01">a location we could use so would you did you know full it a student</r>
<r t="1717.18">of "'cause" you these also resource know could you can there's and there's if you're</r>
<r t="1722.32">acting there's a resource around more i've of the answer is no at least not</r>
<r t="1725.8">that i'm aware of if there was i would i would love to hear about</r>
<r t="1728.95">it haven't so far it very well may exist that at some university that i</r>
<r t="1732.77">just haven't looked into there</r>
<r t="1735.4">top that's available deep enough yet but i certainly haven't heard about it and i</r>
<r t="1739.15">know lots of people who have kids you want someone how to program and they</r>
<r t="1743.36">don't know how to help them start and what's out there is just it's not</r>
<r t="1747.9">very good i mean that they can say there's traction there's alice and there's code</r>
<r t="1752.24">academy and different things but none of those and all those all they might each</r>
<r t="1756.94">programming but they don't focus on the freedom part which is the problem and i</r>
<r t="1761.71">think that we need to have something and educational program for kids that focuses on</r>
<r t="1767.74">teaching now and of way that's fine but that also is teaching them about the</r>
<r t="1772.08">principles of free software and why that's important why is it important that it's free</r>
<r t="1777.11">not just how to do it but why that important that you're releasing your source</r>
<r t="1780.1">code and that you're contributing in you know when you're putting it on get how</r>
<r t="1783.31">and it's open and it's free</r>
<r t="1799.51">i</r>
<r t="1802.04">so i propose how do you think that we it's a community can reach large</r>
<r t="1809.77">numbers of young people outside of just the ones that we interact with them our</r>
<r t="1813.49">communities and families</r>
<r t="1815.58">what it is about that we thought about that's what that's kind of what i'm</r>
<r t="1819.85">trying to get is that i think we need a we need invent super talks</r>
<r t="1823.55">and invent a way to change it and release it and marketing and use what</r>
<r t="1829.11">we have in free software to market it and show what's the kids and make</r>
<r t="1833.37">it become somehow the cool new now that kids then to download because they want</r>
<r t="1838.48">to download and it needs to run on linux obviously but it also need to</r>
<r t="1841.28">run on android i'm probably on O S X so that kids there can download</r>
<r t="1845.4">it and look at it and play with it because let's be honest it most</r>
<r t="1849.71">kids are not running you know as much as we might want them to</r>
<r t="1860.3">i</r>
<r t="1866.81">anything else</r>
<r t="1869.3">friend again</r>
<r t="1873.34">i guess i would love to go to schools but i don't i don't know</r>
<r t="1878.46">quite how to approach them they're hard to approach at least one that i try</r>
<r t="1882.75">to put some for other various things and how do you how do you go</r>
<r t="1886.89">and tell them i wanna expose your kids to this and a lot of them</r>
<r t="1890.4">are just at least write a are very resistant anyone outside of themselves because they're</r>
<r t="1896.51">all about their funding and what they have already</r>
<r t="1907.65">right</r>
<r t="1908.9">so that there were you had it he had in their of some waiting to</r>
<r t="1912.44">get in already but if you don't have that in if you're me and i</r>
<r t="1915.88">don't really know any teachers in the schools how to way how do i find</r>
<r t="1919.07">that person that will give me access and let me come in and help their</r>
<r t="1922.79">kids learn</r>
<r t="1926.51">thing and mobile welcome you slowly connections with my high school elementary schools most people</r>
<r t="1935.76">probably assume new people who wants to really score elementary schools are teaching better</r>
<r t="1944.05">i have my name my brother i know lots of people around but i don't</r>
<r t="1948.42">know anyone who actually works for the schools in that capacity</r>
<r t="1953.27">i didn't go to school so i don't have a teacher's i well i have</r>
<r t="1958.16">well i have a huge network of friends but mostly all of them have scattered</r>
<r t="1963.04">they're all over there's in california one just went got sweden</r>
<r t="1968.69">they're just everywhere</r>
<r t="1981.2">more comment and a question really but in my high school learning computers was lenny</r>
<r t="1986.8">microsoft office and proprietary programs the right and really interested in finding with the stuff</r>
<r t="1991.44">that right now that's what i when i was in college i had to take</r>
<r t="1994.76">microsoft office my hasn't acted to take it twice because they wouldn't accept any to</r>
<r t="1999.57">next office two thousand and three when he went back to school for years later</r>
<r t="2002.95">and with that thousand seven to the different class take it again which just drove</r>
<r t="2007.23">me crazy</r>
<r t="2009.16">and him crazy</r>
<r t="2011.01">also more of a comment than a question the what you mentioned with changing the</r>
<r t="2016.66">physics of the game reminded me of the of the talk about project or maybe</r>
<r t="2021.09">you some of you know it's like where you can added the code like you</r>
<r t="2025.44">can you can directly edit the code and see how it how it influences the</r>
<r t="2029.84">games i would influence the trajectory of the jump for example right i think that</r>
<r t="2034.18">would be great like not only for kids like for everyone but especially for kids</r>
<r t="2038.13">you can usually see you want you slide the value for a little gravity and</r>
<r t="2042.51">see how the john trajectory that was that would be perfect that we did something</r>
<r t="2046.88">very simple that they can slide this and you're changing it from dying ten to</r>
<r t="2050.81">twenty and what does that change</r>
<r t="2057.8">so you might mention is already "'cause" the came in late but</r>
<r t="2061.88">and that tell you know in the ski know mentioned having again the people can</r>
<r t="2066.61">actually at the right word from was this like connected to the yes</r>
<r t="2071.67">yes that was all that's what the one other thing that matt said that i</r>
<r t="2075.31">think it's absolutely yes and it comes back to where i live just in the</r>
<r t="2078.7">middle of nowhere i don't have high speed internet so his idea of having a</r>
<r t="2082.74">way to update your system with their remote key is just genius i do that</r>
<r t="2088.17">all the time and that i take my like my laptop to the library but</r>
<r t="2091.28">it's true my kids laptop gets updated infrequently at best because it means running a</r>
<r t="2095.94">cable to it and then telling them they're not allowed to play with it for</r>
<r t="2098.86">like a day well the downloads because i downloaded ten or twenty kilobits a second</r>
<r t="2105.12">on a bad it drops to five</r>
<r t="2111.85">but yes</r>
<r t="2113.3">i record that</r>
<r t="2118.74">it's</r>
<r t="2120.41">yes</r>
<r t="2122.87">yes but it's been years and years and years</r>
<r t="2125.93">but yes</r>
<r t="2128.02">that sort is that sort of stuff to change things</r>
<r t="2133.29">yes</r>
<r t="2140.61">that</r>
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