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<r t="9.98">i'm gonna tell you about on tell you know in the state of integration so</r>
<r t="15.27">review has heard of long sell</r>
<r t="18.46">and we use that</r>
<r t="21.06">three</r>
<r t="22.79">okay so i'm young i'm the designer i do the about interface design and overlaps</r>
<r t="29.97">design and that's the plant design so all of you who don't know what i'm</r>
<r t="33.68">clout is it's a mainly it's like about that it's a it's a P H</r>
<r t="38.52">P website you can put on your own server and it has an interface for</r>
<r t="42.66">files file management has that's for calendar contacts and you can write your own that's</r>
<r t="48.01">also</r>
<r t="49.35">and we have a does some thinking up so you can secure files that a</r>
<r t="53.23">desktop and what happened and i was that so it's like the files and can</r>
<r t="59.63">share thingy and i think so the topic of talk i think that it's really</r>
<r t="65.37">important that we cooperating collaborate because like i personally love you guys and there's been</r>
<r t="74.97">like i personally had a long history with or not a long history but known</r>
<r t="80.18">was like my first we open source project where i work with the people and</r>
<r t="85.35">i'm at the community and i think it's really nice</r>
<r t="88.67">and so it's also like the signal minimum cost or is also kind of like</r>
<r t="93.8">a personal story really personal story for me so it's mainly about desktop and web</r>
<r t="100.8">how we can bring the two together how we can how the one thing can</r>
<r t="104.91">benefit from the other one and we can work together where one project has resources</r>
<r t="111.5">for desktop and one of the reasons for web and it's like strong projects loosely</r>
<r t="118.42">coupled together and so that we that we deliver a full experience to people</r>
<r t="124.96">and of course everything is open source i because that's important for people's data like</r>
<r t="131.09">that they that they can hosted themselves like the reason then as a scandal and</r>
<r t="136.05">i don't know that we are using an open desktop or if we desktop but</r>
<r t="141.35">using a proprietary cloud is</r>
<r t="144.74">pretty much a problem i think so we want to change that but we need</r>
<r t="148.66">proper integration for that that's where good design and then</r>
<r t="153.45">and that's why want to also give a special shout out to become design team</r>
<r t="157.86">and all the designers that are sitting in the audience because i think non design</r>
<r t="163.36">thing has there's been like a big influence on my work also and how we</r>
<r t="167.08">do design and on cloud a so big thanks and that at that point so</r>
<r t="174.03">let me or also right the term because system i think is a is a</r>
<r t="182.43">kind of a maybe a weasel words used by like companies or the monopolies</r>
<r t="189.72">to strive like an experience that you can only have if you completely buy into</r>
<r t="193.52">that systems i think it's very important that we sink with or that we that</r>
<r t="197.5">we collaborate with proprietary stuff as well with open stuff so with nick know online</r>
<r t="203.7">accounts for instance we have like you can use a google account</r>
<r t="207.75">use facebook account so i think that is very important to get people who are</r>
<r t="211.64">using these accounts but we also need to tightly coupled with the free services</r>
<r t="216.95">so that we have like flexibly can system like i have a i have work</r>
<r t="220.91">from book running able to i have a firefox that's phone and i have an</r>
<r t="224.42">ipod touch and it's really help to just sink notes that's not even possible actually</r>
<r t="230.13">and that's kind of a joke if you think about it so</r>
<r t="234.84">we tell you a story how and that's about the past like the history of</r>
<r t="240.52">on telling you know so in early two thousand ten is actually funny because i</r>
<r t="246.62">done through and mailing list archives is the mail i sent in march two thousand</r>
<r t="253.04">ten about a three open source alternative to drop box but ignoring katie calibre collaboration</r>
<r t="260.04">where on top was still like it katie project or it was born out of</r>
<r t="264.28">katie uses a</r>
<r t="265.94">and it just send i what i was not participating in on call back then</r>
<r t="269.98">and just send a mail to the usability list was saying hey there seems to</r>
<r t="272.94">be like this effort about the on cloud and there was a another effort i</r>
<r t="277.83">call the design help i think and that was also supported terrible okay and i</r>
<r t="284.99">just wanted to bring these things together already in two thousand ten and i'm glad</r>
<r t="291.41">that it went it went further</r>
<r t="294.13">so in summer two thousand eleven know right that's actually two thousand ten that's a</r>
<r t="297.97">typo it was what i in haiti where that was my first like it was</r>
<r t="306.55">a really fun and i also didn't participate in code yet but i wanna like</r>
<r t="311.47">i saw that great just of and i wanted to sync with or i wanted</r>
<r t="315.3">to collaborate with the and a cloud thingy where you can sink your data can</r>
<r t="320.9">second stuff</r>
<r t="322.68">so in really two thousand eleven that's like the first on top access they didn't</r>
<r t="328.51">find a better picture actually it's prefix lever that's me out there on the board</r>
<r t="333.76">sketching for the new design an estimate maybe you some of you know from his</r>
<r t="340.19">on the right is the founder and of on call</r>
<r t="343.71">and so we were just five people like than packing on the scout thing</r>
<r t="349.43">and then in like two thousand eleven i post my thesis a goal usability in</r>
<r t="353.48">free software which was very much influenced by norm and pile work on cloud</r>
<r t="360.49">and to push forward actually that the design and usability and for software and</r>
<r t="367.45">then in late two thousand twelve</r>
<r t="370.16">no if you can read it but there's integrate own clouding know and it was</r>
<r t="375.42">push forward piracy i don't know if here you may so</r>
<r t="383.46">to integrate untalented norm</r>
<r t="386.49">sinking of calendar contacts and that was started like two thousand twelve also a somewhere</r>
<r t="392.95">times tree</r>
<r t="394.37">is here also serum</r>
<r t="397.65">okay hero to mail to the and what was the marketing this hey guys do</r>
<r t="405.03">you what you think about installing on cloud and the then shortly after i'm gonna</r>
<r t="411.06">share later it actually happened so thanks you also so what about the current state</r>
<r t="417.11">actually of integration</r>
<r t="419.91">we have grown integration into online accounts so you can you can synchronise you calendar</r>
<r t="424.96">and contacts with the evolution and you can sing files</r>
<r t="430.36">so it actually looks like is you have your files mounted as a as a</r>
<r t="434.71">lot of resource and not a list and you can access then do anything you</r>
<r t="440.18">want with it it's like a what if resource and</r>
<r t="444.79">we also have the as i mentioned before we also have the sinking client and</r>
<r t="450.09">that's actually sings</r>
<r t="452.73">your data on your device whereas this is like a network drive</r>
<r t="457.49">then we have a calendar integration and the contacts integration</r>
<r t="464.39">and we're looking forward to add more stuff and so that's why i've talked to</r>
<r t="469.84">a lot of you people and i think somebody a we have a deployment at</r>
<r t="474.15">the cloud don't know not or</r>
<r t="476.53">where you can we can use on top will</r>
<r t="481.77">check or you will receive this that's fine in screen and you can if you</r>
<r t="485.82">question account and andrea so currently it's like currently available to all going teams well</r>
<r t="491.18">if your foundation member a lot but basically is like ask and referent account and</r>
<r t="496.9">you will get an account at startup norman organ you can share with other numbers</r>
<r t="501.19">you can you can create groups three teams</r>
<r t="504.88">and you can just show you documents secure stuff secure calendars and have it available</r>
<r t="513.17">everywhere</r>
<r t="514.36">so</r>
<r t="516.75">i think that's pretty cool i think that too</r>
<r t="520.58">and but i think it's like we need to look way forward or it's</r>
<r t="525.68">like even in the immediate future</r>
<r t="527.96">there's lots of things that we can we can we can do integrating more applications</r>
<r t="532.99">for instance</r>
<r t="534.25">so one issue that is still and from the norm online accounts integration is documents</r>
<r t="540.65">pick up the own code documents</r>
<r t="544.34">i think the norm documents integration from google from non one like council oops that</r>
<r t="549.31">was a</r>
<r t="551.15">the type of so</r>
<r t="554.92">it needs to like going on documents</r>
<r t="557.71">should be integrated so that the documents of the files that you have online your</r>
<r t="561.58">own proud or just send</r>
<r t="563.66">and then we have nodes we have like a very simple notes at and on</r>
<r t="569.39">cloud and there we actually have a collaboration i think here even is not here</r>
<r t="573.13">but he does the he does the don't know that</r>
<r t="576.75">which is a formally called be japan and maybe you heard about it and it</r>
<r t="581.03">actually already sense so you have like hello known thank you have a there and</r>
<r t="585.71">you can just edit it because it works and also via web stuff just use</r>
<r t="589.6">a second notes subfolder in the</r>
<r t="593.28">in the finals</r>
<r t="595.28">files that so it just gets and for free essentially and so you can you</r>
<r t="600.47">can already have like if you use the same client you can already sing to</r>
<r t="604.73">know what's you don't even need to wait for notes to be finished a you</r>
<r t="608.78">can just use your favourite editor and use it but i think that knows that</r>
<r t="612.91">is way better than just using the file system</r>
<r t="617.07">and then a we have a news that so as all of you know who</r>
<r t="621.9">would reader not existing anymore so if you use this it's too late now well</r>
<r t="628.53">you feel are gone that's kind of a problem so</r>
<r t="633.05">there is several attentive there's like newsletter which is also free and open source it's</r>
<r t="637.72">hosted</r>
<r t="639.11">and there is a tiny rss</r>
<r t="643.05">which is like an it's also php software or something and then there's on top</r>
<r t="648.78">news which is a an integrated news at some but then it over there and</r>
<r t="654.13">i think it's really important because</r>
<r t="658.27">it's and</r>
<r t="660.18">it's quite a</r>
<r t="661.63">it's quite a</r>
<r t="663.66">but or it seems like it's quite a fringe at or quite a fringe on</r>
<r t="668.15">a use case like to read websites or something because nowadays like people use facebook</r>
<r t="673.34">introduced ritter and stuff but that's exactly the point we should be able to we</r>
<r t="677.71">them on our own space and we should be able to track the website on</r>
<r t="681.74">our own</r>
<r t="683.77">in our own servers in our own homes the same</r>
<r t="688.9">so and i also like to dedicate this slides to our and sports who worked</r>
<r t="693.02">on the process specification and in general on the freedom of the what</r>
<r t="698.77">and there</r>
<r t="702.1">customer i think you don't see a that's pretty it it's the news design documents</r>
<r t="707.75">on the left of numbered or weekly that no not or and i think customers</r>
<r t="713.5">working on a newsreader for known so that</r>
<r t="717.99">should be able to sink with that newsreader then and what you get for free</r>
<r t="723.4">is an android until newsreader you can already downloaded and support the developers like it's</r>
<r t="728.78">a it's a paid out</r>
<r t="731.41">and i think it's really good because it's an open source hey that's you can</r>
<r t="734.55">also download the source and compile it whatnot it's upon get help but i think</r>
<r t="738.95">it's really important also support open source so if you have a hundred phone just</r>
<r t="743.8">a have to the store and support the developer of it</r>
<r t="749.35">and it we have there's and i was a and in development it's karen in</r>
<r t="753.39">beta and there is a blackberry have i think and windows phone at development also</r>
<r t="759.89">and then next we have nice i think the i can and number you your</r>
<r t="763.02">can right</r>
<r t="764.17">you remember that</r>
<r t="766.63">okay so maps there is</r>
<r t="769.28">i just yesterday amenity S who's doing the masking on that set and we have</r>
<r t="775.03">some people working on there's also into sucks student for katie who does the marble</r>
<r t="780.77">and on cloud integration marbles the matched up of katie it's like a really go</r>
<r t="786.49">and stuff</r>
<r t="787.99">so i think that's really important because there's google maps and then there is</r>
<r t="795.36">nothing for a long time and then maybe there is like open stream and somewhere</r>
<r t="801">but you can't do routing stuff and so i really think it's important that we</r>
<r t="806">have a proper maps solution i we can just simply search get directions say favourite</r>
<r t="812.1">places and just have that things</r>
<r t="815.81">where wherever we are like whichever device we use because it's us</r>
<r t="821.86">it's just like it</r>
<r t="825.28">i forgot what i wanna say but it's important to have maps</r>
<r t="828.52">so the next with music</r>
<r t="832.83">there's music at the development and we have like a basic music at for about</r>
<r t="842.03">and there's also turn you go with some of coke student working on a sinking</r>
<r t="845.59">with achieve i think and i think planet already talked with the cool summer of</r>
<r t="852.92">course didn't of you guys and</r>
<r t="856.53">that of course we also need just think it's like very simple just do the</r>
<r t="860.31">dance and sing the data and have it on your desktop and</r>
<r t="865.72">whenever something happens have a new desktop and have it on all your devices essentially</r>
<r t="871.96">and then there's this</r>
<r t="873.72">thing like it's i feel is kind of the elephant in the room it's mail</r>
<r t="877.44">it's like i can almost imagine what we use for mail</r>
<r t="883.79">and i think it's a really big problem so where like our collective hacker intelligence</r>
<r t="891.42">when's that we all use this mail provider so i think it's really important</r>
<r t="898.56">that we have a proper</r>
<r t="900.46">mail solution that is that is</r>
<r t="903.52">looking good working well and just like basic stuff like fretting and moving stuff filters</r>
<r t="911.7">and that's some things automatically so we have a start at get about comes like</r>
<r t="918.81">jean claude such mail</r>
<r t="921.95">it's very basic but it's a start and especially there if you're interested i would</r>
<r t="929.4">invite you to collaborate there</r>
<r t="932.89">and so we can we can finally</r>
<r t="936.65">host their own email again</r>
<r t="940.19">and then there is bookmarks</r>
<r t="942.79">pretty basically we have bookmarks at and i'd actually any of the epiphany or web</r>
<r t="949.01">guys</r>
<r t="950.76">anyone</r>
<r t="952.04">okay i need to talk to them later because bookmarks again pretty</r>
<r t="957.28">normal thing just synced bookmarks</r>
<r t="960.98">and there you also get another thing for free which is not bookmarks friend right</r>
<r t="966.09">also and you just have the have the have the bookmarks on your and right</r>
<r t="970.72">device even better would be of course to sink it like directly i don't know</r>
<r t="975.16">if that that's possible like with the browser</r>
<r t="979.13">but there you have it in the out in a couple of months</r>
<r t="983.78">then videos i thought question there is and don't videos that and there is in</r>
<r t="989.71">development i saw some commits a about a an uncut videos that so that you</r>
<r t="994.35">just have like peer videos on the web and just also have those and it's</r>
<r t="999.66">like it's just really basic i'm just listening actually</r>
<r t="1002.93">the data just need to be saying and tasks i just heard is the land</r>
<r t="1007.94">of here</r>
<r t="1009.77">okay all something to talk to him later this is doing getting these things you</r>
<r t="1013.36">know my heard and we also have like a basic test up and it would</r>
<r t="1018.03">be cool to also</r>
<r t="1020.14">i think that and i could i could continue on and on and on and</r>
<r t="1024.28">there are so many</r>
<r t="1026.13">well actually they're not so many more apps that could be sent a that was</r>
<r t="1030.75">pretty much like the core stuff that what you get when you when you get</r>
<r t="1033.74">an android phone when you get in iphone or something like the basic apps that</r>
<r t="1038.2">everyone needs</r>
<r t="1040.41">and</r>
<r t="1042.26">they they're like some tiny more that's but there's more than just data and aspect</r>
<r t="1047.54">because data and ask i think is very tangible but you can you know where</r>
<r t="1052.89">your data is you have your home folder and you can just copy over you</r>
<r t="1057.02">can you can back it up on a hard drive a you know where your</r>
<r t="1060.7">apps are you know what the ask you often use are if you miss and</r>
<r t="1064.45">happy just install it or something but that's cumbersome and what happens</r>
<r t="1069.74">and this happens</r>
<r t="1071.55">so</r>
<r t="1072.64">your laptops brokenness on fire i don't know it's like yesterday you went too much</r>
<r t="1077.56">to drink and you fell into the we have a river here in the city</r>
<r t="1080.55">anyway if we don't have one something else happened and</r>
<r t="1084.82">i think it's important that we also think about all this stuff because that's the</r>
<r t="1089.72">annoying stuff that we need to always said</r>
<r t="1093.84">like appearance like the that that's the background if i have a funny i don't</r>
<r t="1098.92">know funny scroll picture on my background as my background i want everything to it's</r>
<r t="1103.47">not that simple it's just some single file and want to have it when my</r>
<r t="1107.37">laptops broken i want to have a manual a brightness unlock seems like what is</r>
<r t="1113.87">there to saying well the time and it takes a lot or of brightness level</r>
<r t="1119.85">of the what happens if you on market like to just ask for passport or</r>
<r t="1123.32">not keyboard layout the if</r>
<r t="1128.43">you change the keyword layout any keyboard shortcuts</r>
<r t="1132.45">the other online accounts you have configured bluetooth which device you're paired with any specific</r>
<r t="1138.65">colour settings displays when you need use project or something and you have specific resolutions</r>
<r t="1145.65">it's like if you go on a non also touchpad like specific settings like sensitivity</r>
<r t="1150.92">a network save wifi sweater passports power settings what happens if i put the lid</r>
<r t="1156.04">down a printer is annoying as hell as it is so we should not make</r>
<r t="1160.52">it more nine us so just a friend there is</r>
<r t="1164.2">when i like when i connect to printer just save it and thank you don't</r>
<r t="1167.75">have the configuration</r>
<r t="1170.61">"'cause" otherwise if i have a new laptop i need to configure it all again</r>
<r t="1174.59">and it's also annoying of the we have the i got date and time something</r>
<r t="1180.73">as simple as that if it changed my change my regional settings or and also</r>
<r t="1187.4">for sources like install software user counts alright like user images or something like your</r>
<r t="1193.96">real name or so</r>
<r t="1196.25">all of this like saying all of this</r>
<r t="1198.58">i heard there's something called chi settings and we should plug that into and one</r>
<r t="1204.63">line accounts to and just think that</r>
<r t="1208.28">like to me as a design sounds easy enough but i would like to talk</r>
<r t="1212.78">to the person who can do that</r>
<r t="1215.84">so next thing is like everything that is there also need to miss and we</r>
<r t="1222.55">have installed apps</r>
<r t="1224.87">like every at i have installed every a i have not installed because i find</r>
<r t="1228.62">myself when i set up a new computer</r>
<r t="1231.31">and still everything and i uninstall also a whole bunch of stuff because i don't</r>
<r t="1236">want certain apps to show up in the in the overview because i just never</r>
<r t="1239.84">use that so i want that to be remembered as well and the favourite apps</r>
<r t="1244.59">a the</r>
<r t="1246.4">screen configuration</r>
<r t="1249.37">like if you use if you still workspace i mean maybe even open apps like</r>
<r t="1255.17">when you computer got smashed like when you were actually working on something like mark</r>
<r t="1259.69">was not gonna give a then you want your</r>
<r t="1263.01">current configuration saved as much as you can recently search items all that stuff like</r>
<r t="1268.97">even the current volume i don't know that's really not that important but let's make</r>
<r t="1274.18">important</r>
<r t="1275.24">then there's like especially for recorder see of the best receiver get comfy i guess</r>
<r t="1279.73">age you could you can use all this dot files right we have this</r>
<r t="1284.55">there's a strand of having a dot files repository upon gets out so why do</r>
<r t="1289.31">we need that stuff i mean it's funny to share the can think but we</r>
<r t="1293.75">should also just have it saying and have it set up when you found your</r>
<r t="1298.74">new computer</r>
<r t="1300.6">i just haven't work like i don't wanna go express the need to install get</r>
<r t="1304.35">then i need to clone the repository and then i have to say i have</r>
<r t="1308.21">set it up i should just login username and then everything is done</r>
<r t="1313.64">next thing is like passwords like for wife eyes for websites like also for the</r>
<r t="1318.77">browser again notifications like red states is like the most annoying thing you use different</r>
<r t="1324.79">device even</r>
<r t="1326.2">even if you just use two devices like you read it on one device and</r>
<r t="1330.19">on the other device still there that essentially makes medications pointless because there's just a</r>
<r t="1335.38">slew of messages that you don't know jittery this that we do not read this</r>
<r t="1340.55">then there's fonts like all my fun files actually like i want to use a</r>
<r t="1344.56">different font but it didn't work like whatever</r>
<r t="1348.54">i want that saying and there's like a whole bunch of other things like an</r>
<r t="1352.55">single think about we talked about that day before yesterday and we came up with</r>
<r t="1356.51">like a long list of stuff and essentially of everything that isn't settings</r>
<r t="1362.56">plus there's and probably some more things</r>
<r t="1366.47">and then something which i really think is important also that high scores for games</r>
<r t="1371.83">like when you are</r>
<r t="1373.43">at this point</r>
<r t="1374.79">or even further like when you many finish this thing right when you finish you</r>
<r t="1379.31">know mine on this level you all</r>
<r t="1384.47">i do that like maybe once we or something and i have new high score</r>
<r t="1389.63">and then i want have saying that because that's very important</r>
<r t="1393.61">because i can show it off to my friends and them on my computer hume</r>
<r t="1396.16">pewter is broken</r>
<r t="1397.92">i don't know that high score anymore and that's a pity because of them my</r>
<r t="1401.45">friends think i'm line that people shouldn't have to like to their friends about the</r>
<r t="1406.07">high scores so we should just so right it's like it's pretty basic a but</r>
<r t="1412.23">that's a stuff you never think about when you when you think about data sink</r>
<r t="1416.03">it's like</r>
<r t="1418.3">only small things which are in inside the apps which are inside the configuration files</r>
<r t="1422.69">all this all this difference</r>
<r t="1426.07">stuff that makes up the whole the whole of what i put into the computer</r>
<r t="1431.49">or what i did with the computer what i want to be there when i</r>
<r t="1435.18">when and solid again or when i when i have a different device</r>
<r t="1440.13">very simple actually</r>
<r t="1443.24">so just have the apps and then sink everything and not only the data that</r>
<r t="1447.83">is in there but also data vic the metadata and</r>
<r t="1452.32">everything like you probably or most of you probably know more what's</r>
<r t="1456.79">there is or which data there is</r>
<r t="1461.12">so just think that just everything</r>
<r t="1464.68">and if your mind blowing it then i would like to propose that we just</r>
<r t="1471.19">do it i talked to several people you already which i mentioned also and i</r>
<r t="1478.7">wanna or we like as long thought or in the on call community we want</r>
<r t="1482.62">to talk to more of your and wanna collaborate on even more so that we</r>
<r t="1487.52">can we can just have like</r>
<r t="1490.17">have a free desktop operating system with police things like freak out service so this</r>
<r t="1496.84">i think you have your of your old insulation or you started in on the</r>
<r t="1500.89">door and then you can just one someone takes a hammer especially laptop well you</r>
<r t="1506.11">just have to devices like i don't know i don't think happens that often that</r>
<r t="1509.45">someone takes a hammer something but you just have to devices we just want to</r>
<r t="1513.35">have everything same</r>
<r t="1515.48">it can it's a pain right i just someone you have what i think lots</r>
<r t="1518.87">of your people have like for three non devices and it's</r>
<r t="1525.62">quite a pain to get those saying but we should always remember that it's not</r>
<r t="1531.12">about the technology like it's not about on clouds not about can home and it's</r>
<r t="1535.64">not about what do you actually do that if you think it or if you</r>
<r t="1538.62">just have it online or whatnot but it's about people that we do it for</r>
<r t="1543.48">and what they what they expect like</r>
<r t="1546.79">if they use it if they don't use gnome if they don't use on clothing</r>
<r t="1549.82">that's why like the come online accounts approach so much is that it just into</r>
<r t="1554.84">it is able or it can potentially integrate anything like and it can integrate flicker</r>
<r t="1561.15">facebook will whatever because people use those services but we should also make it easy</r>
<r t="1566.48">and to integrate other services</r>
<r t="1568.78">and so like with without for instance we also make it possible to month you</r>
<r t="1572.7">will go drive to monitor drop box to plug in your i don't know what</r>
<r t="1576.78">it's just what people use that's important that should be important for us</r>
<r t="1583.91">thank you</r>
<r t="1596.59">address</r>
<r t="1600.7">i so i heard you mention briefly own collapse</r>
<r t="1607.46">no like how okay yes it's like step install on your own so that instance</r>
<r t="1612.21">and</r>
<r t="1613.19">just run right and out of the base system i think we could integrate</r>
<r t="1620.42">those guys specifically in into the online counts because it's a tricky thing right hunting</r>
<r t="1625.74">on let's ever it would be it would have</r>
<r t="1629.4">different capable right it would have different apps so</r>
<r t="1633.27">i'm the francisco calendar and contacts you have like colour and conduct of these exposed</r>
<r t="1639.59">protocols and working on a P R's for the specific that's like for the know</r>
<r t="1644.27">that for instance in the future there would be an A P I for bookmarks</r>
<r t="1648.14">should be an A P I for maps</r>
<r t="1649.94">and i feel like to expose the you adjacent data or something and so they're</r>
<r t="1655.49">like we need to we need to probably have something to convert better to have</r>
<r t="1661.71">a common format</r>
<r t="1663.91">well what you mean</r>
<r t="1665.9">but you are do you can check like which apps installed phones please and then</r>
<r t="1671.29">there is but like what's plan to be part of a colour right so you</r>
<r t="1675.13">can always expect to be here right so that you never know that's the that</r>
<r t="1679.61">something like the only thing you always knows that there's files so that there's matter</r>
<r t="1684.23">and that's the only thing that will ever or that is ever fully expect to</r>
<r t="1688.85">be there and but like i have said i guy i don't know exactly but</r>
<r t="1693.92">i think probably when you do like a count of requests on the server which</r>
<r t="1697.66">doesn't have counter enabled probably returns an error it's times like there is no counter</r>
<r t="1702.87">installed and i could imagine i don't know</r>
<r t="1706.36">but i could imagine</r>
<r t="1708.6">and how</r>
<r t="1711.28">wouldn't want the situation where you running against multiple instances alone about because assuming multiple</r>
<r t="1717.84">instance because we have one you know where well company we have while they're we</r>
<r t="1723.59">have one there a i want like no calendar to track the release date the</r>
<r t="1728.56">free states but i want my office cal that attract the office ones and i</r>
<r t="1732.97">certainly don't want my the disappointment in the ghetto calendar</r>
<r t="1736.81">and the serious that these arts trying to you if you open up loaded like</r>
<r t="1741.54">corporate files documents to the O is think how</r>
<r t="1746.95">do we want to solve the privacy issue</r>
<r t="1749.89">so you mean like i have two different i'm glad instances in the non online</r>
<r t="1754.86">accounts for example i don't know if that's possible does anyone know that well what</r>
<r t="1760.01">should</r>
<r t="1761.53">so earnest possible or so what you know what most is how should we solve</r>
<r t="1768.33">the privacy issues that come from that situation</r>
<r t="1772.33">because more things and moving to the cloud more things and moving their we using</r>
<r t="1777.22">a various levels of drop looks accounts on various companies it's a bit of pain</r>
<r t="1781.25">and yes to have voiced also drop offs and are running on four different use</r>
<r t="1785.73">cup accounts because you can't login</r>
<r t="1788.33">several drop box accounts is wants</r>
<r t="1792.18">but if you have separate components is like yes not a problem where you when</r>
<r t="1798.15">you be event in the calendar you can specify which calendar you want to</r>
<r t="1801.62">and i don't get sick people</r>
<r t="1803.33">make up to so all contacts and it doesn't accompanist but files for example</r>
<r t="1811.81">it sings all the files</r>
<r t="1814.78">it shows and it shows is a different but of resource</r>
<r t="1817.69">it doesn't mix them up or anything</r>
<r t="1820.11">okay</r>
<r t="1826.77">if i can put this like that one</r>
<r t="1829.85">okay where was a right</r>
<r t="1833.56">okay</r>
<r t="1834.93">i mean one thing for the</r>
<r t="1840.64">you want to the first one or the other one</r>
<r t="1843.86">okay</r>
<r t="1844.87">okay anything</r>
<r t="1849.47">well i'm here</r>
<r t="1858.97">and so what managers okay take into help ensure the security of data is that</r>
<r t="1864.95">saying them always terrified of and big corporations you have like millions of dollars invested</r>
<r t="1871.16">sometimes still league lots of dater get so</r>
<r t="1875.12">if like and using on cloud on a gnome server how can i trusted</r>
<r t="1880.39">that's a good question actually do you trust and references</r>
<r t="1884.27">i know like corporations that likes to provide security to us and we have an</r>
<r t="1889.57">to so even but i was just okay so the thing is there is there</r>
<r t="1896.54">is an encryption have a in or for about i don't know the state of</r>
<r t="1901.35">it exactly and but there is like an effort to also have a host secure</r>
<r t="1908.01">so that you that you don't need to trust your poster to secure your data</r>
<r t="1913.33">the problem with that like we with or in our specific case without out with</r>
<r t="1918.24">for example end to end encryption is that you wouldn't be able to use the</r>
<r t="1921.79">web interface anymore which kind of makes the whole thing the mood point so there</r>
<r t="1925.78">you could just use like to perhaps you could even use it with box for</r>
<r t="1929.77">instance</r>
<r t="1930.69">so that's a harder problem solved but we're working on it but it's like it's</r>
<r t="1935.87">super hard but we certainly care about that</r>
<r t="1940.06">does that answer your question</r>
<r t="1941.54">just one thing i don't like the lee was previously being offered most is like</r>
<r t="1947.07">a chrome extension and that's like firefox extension like will ever be possible for on</r>
<r t="1953.06">cloud to have offer like a browser side extension that would be of the like</r>
<r t="1957.7">transparently display things that would be encrypted don't know cloud servers</r>
<r t="1962.85">so like they come back to your clients and they are the crypt that there</r>
<r t="1968.69">overlap hard i'm not sure about that i'm not that much of a programmer tutor</r>
<r t="1975.08">to answer the question i think we i think it would certainly be possible</r>
<r t="1979.16">because like nearly everything is possible i guess but someone needs to do it that's</r>
<r t="1983.39">like always from</r>
<r t="1989.74">i think there's so maybe some of you know approvingly</r>
<r t="1997.77">if you questions</r>
<r t="1999.14">so i have a question</r>
<r t="2001.93">but this is</r>
<r t="2003.87">well the thing is that it has like if you compared that box right there</r>
<r t="2009.07">is a nice</r>
<r t="2011.9">notification when somebody and share the document or something with you a i don't associate</r>
<r t="2018.31">client that's written in katie as when they will be when you see a something</r>
<r t="2026.31">similar that integrates better make you know</r>
<r t="2030.55">i so i don't think we have the resources to like to a native G</r>
<r t="2034.73">T K implementation if that's what you're asking because like you typically vic frostbite from</r>
<r t="2040.17">thing that we chose because we can do it on windows and michael's and the</r>
<r t="2044.26">two people working on and are to T people so there's no i think there's</r>
<r t="2048.74">nobody currently working on like you that on a G T K implementation just because</r>
<r t="2053.21">like we just have to people and it's just on possible</r>
<r t="2058.31">but i also have like a</r>
<r t="2060.61">i have a last</r>
<r t="2061.8">slide come and say hi to us where all the code is also open source</r>
<r t="2067.78">gettable concert on cloud are see channel on content and on product design we also</r>
<r t="2073.95">have a design channel</r>
<r t="2075.88">you have enough</r>
<r t="2077.97">i really like and i is there any way you like i had exchanged count</r>
<r t="2083.51">there and easily in work out there's a will so we</r>
<r t="2089.14">so that's a big problem right now you can you can export calendars where you</r>
<r t="2093">can important like it's like</r>
<r t="2095.44">that's a problem i know but in it will be in the in about six</r>
<r t="2099.5">and the next severance</r>
<r t="2104.45">so this kind of an extension of wondrous question number to have a very</r>
<r t="2109.12">that i can see over files and i haven't talked to you guys maybe for</r>
<r t="2114.46">you that's true</r>
<r t="2115.63">are you thinking about having some kind of general data we are in the or</r>
<r t="2119.99">parent are do you know anything about that</r>
<r t="2123.97">i've i probably i could imagine that you have like we have so we are</r>
<r t="2128.66">trying to do would like in general ache if i remember correctly i think we</r>
<r t="2132.44">were trying to do like a general like generalise core api but i don't know</r>
<r t="2138.7">how for that goes so actually</r>
<r t="2142.36">not many ask use where am use files</r>
<r t="2145.93">like the calendar and contacts used a database and you could basically saying anything and</r>
<r t="2152.91">we were two we're trying to do like a proper api so and i think</r>
<r t="2156.45">it's deprecated so i think we're in the process of that</r>
<r t="2160.26">but you get like ideally you can you can ask on the mailing list or</r>
<r t="2164.22">and get have issues because they like are developers know more about me probably</r>
<r t="2171.88">so</r>
<r t="2175.68">a huge</r>
<r t="2179.87">i think a problem at this point you for</r>
<r t="2183.66">i think the</r>
<r t="2186.54">the best thing about i don't know this also probably so please you know</r>
<r t="2191.43">"'cause" i think it is achilles heel this that i simply this</r>
<r t="2196.84">and that's the fact that there is</r>
<r t="2200.47">there's no central this know there's a well hosting provider</r>
<r t="2206.12">so if you tell someone</r>
<r t="2208.7">i want to use and not out there is one way to do it you</r>
<r t="2212.1">immediately have to be making choices and information user experience perspective</r>
<r t="2216.71">and from kind of adoption perspective that's really hard and thinking about it from the</r>
<r t="2222.74">nine perspective like if we want to really push integration of be great to be</r>
<r t="2227.39">able to maybe even my setup</r>
<r t="2230.08">and i'm clout</r>
<r t="2232.11">account and you like first great you know what in initial sets of the something</r>
<r t="2236.33">for example</r>
<r t="2237.95">it's very hard to do that</r>
<r t="2240.01">when you're in the situation where there's always different providers by different companies and</r>
<r t="2250.87">you have the enterprise all that is that we do have i know stuff</r>
<r t="2258.64">but i think the only for users right like if you install gonna on then</r>
<r t="2262.96">you're not like you can't use product longer or for instance</r>
<r t="2266.35">the nist you one way so i like the original or like still the goal</r>
<r t="2273.62">of components like that everyone has their own instance so there would also be like</r>
<r t="2278.76">the</r>
<r t="2279.98">what it would also be cool to have like a one click install</r>
<r t="2284.08">but where does it install them it's is always kind of a problem like i</r>
<r t="2288.01">do you need to trust someone</r>
<r t="2289.83">you need to have a server where you need to have a friend a server</r>
<r t="2292.69">where you need to have an organisation or something</r>
<r t="2295.09">i definitely at that we think it's also problem also like from the from the</r>
<r t="2301.37">work of perspective like are just to find people there like we have to we</r>
<r t="2306.55">have to make sure it always works correctly with all these different server configurations and</r>
<r t="2311.66">it just makes everything harder but</r>
<r t="2314.4">as like on plot or of our own code that con we'll get it doesn't</r>
<r t="2318.01">question</r>
<r t="2320.2">and i was gonna come upon and what was it but on the other or</r>
<r t="2324.94">don't lot of comic we will not offer hosting like will not go into the</r>
<r t="2328.17">hosting business because we don't want people's data and there are other people who can</r>
<r t="2331.95">do that and with their companies and universities doing it and organisations</r>
<r t="2337.33">so to linux there exactly this like the one click you install on some five</r>
<r t="2346.51">and you can write a so you'd wanna do something similar probably them but it's</r>
<r t="2353.35">it's a lot of work if you wanna so set up for them but if</r>
<r t="2357.21">it but i think then that would be your call known like saying hey our</r>
<r t="2361.86">users can set it up and like when you hardcode like amazon on that would</r>
<r t="2367.66">be like a solution</r>
<r t="2372.2">that should be the and the people right</r>
<r t="2375.85">there isn't that's the problem there is not but i don't like actually get your</r>
<r t="2379.43">point i have the same problem like this back with open idea because there's like</r>
<r t="2384.08">only a website like a to is right and i which one</r>
<r t="2390.11">so perhaps extendible elmo saying in the question of the front like five or six</r>
<r t="2394.68">years ago like that this program groupon but i would like three years of doing</r>
<r t="2398.73">the client side of this</r>
<r t="2400.37">and</r>
<r t="2402.21">i think i'll in a few things</r>
<r t="2404.22">and i would it mean your slide in on the basis of what i learned</r>
<r t="2407.2">what on the signs not like think everything just sink everything on that because</r>
<r t="2412.75">you do i combinatorial explosion of services the people wanna support and in this you</r>
<r t="2417.34">can point is what of my at doesn't have the file format you support can</r>
<r t="2421.6">i converted to another thing a plug into a system i to guy</r>
<r t="2424.94">so</r>
<r t="2426.4">the danger of like a sink everything model is everything's a lot of things and</r>
<r t="2431.92">an impossible amount of work so</r>
<r t="2435.4">just</r>
<r t="2436.74">without wanting nine to get into the infrastructure providing purpose business of like untied instance</r>
<r t="2441.87">everyone like</r>
<r t="2443.2">what's the minimum amount of saying stuff that's useful that doesn't require us getting into</r>
<r t="2447.58">business okay but i mean saying everything doesn't go very far beyond as far as</r>
<r t="2452.73">data massive data goes younger actual data like all the install that's is just like</r>
<r t="2457.81">a can fix which right if you'd be surprised</r>
<r t="2461.25">okay but like</r>
<r t="2464.16">okay maybe i don't know</r>
<r t="2467.68">okay so it might make it easy for and think everything extracts on i think</r>
<r t="2472.3">about the direct lex and</r>
<r t="2474.54">in</r>
<r t="2475.59">so that i would advise everything else is</r>
<r t="2479.52">very light problem</r>
<r t="2481.54">okay</r>
<r t="2483.54">there's also the possibility posting yourself on your own network and i think it would</r>
<r t="2488.31">be really interesting to have a small machine that you can just likes to get</r>
<r t="2492.93">an S D card that you just image for example and then it would be</r>
<r t="2496.25">nice if you would automatically to discover that's we don't than anything and then if</r>
<r t="2500.8">that would also somehow work with like U P N B or whatever and open</r>
<r t="2504.91">up ports on the far wall so you can access when you leave your house</r>
<r t="2509.31">can still extra data you don't have to worry about it being on you server</r>
<r t="2514.88">like on amazon or something at the N S A says hey we want to</r>
<r t="2517.96">get all your data you know then at least it's like within your control so</r>
<r t="2522.43">i mean you probably or nearly everyone knows about freedom box if you much projects</r>
<r t="2526.86">we words about having a server in your home like having actually all these services</r>
<r t="2532.37">physically as like on a plaque computer in a some plug and plug into the</r>
<r t="2537.09">internet and you can always access it from anywhere posting your own about essentially and</r>
<r t="2543.17">that's a good point because you all seven physically amendment there's like they wanna search</r>
<r t="2547.64">your data you know where it is you know that they need to get into</r>
<r t="2550.54">your house for instance and then there's actually people installing on cloud on rest very</r>
<r t="2555.8">high you need to optimize it's to make it work well and or unplug computers</r>
<r t="2560.69">like pull plug and so you can you can already do that so that's already</r>
<r t="2564.69">possible</r>
<r t="2568.33">so you can post your own thing you can i mean you can even we</r>
<r t="2571.66">have a just a computer that is in your home anyway maybe even running twenty</r>
<r t="2576.36">four seven you can just install it on there and run it from there</r>
<r t="2581.88">back on the topic a how there's no one sent like you know</r>
<r t="2586.4">but you know</r>
<r t="2587.68">there are some sharing</r>
<r t="2589.99">and then it wouldn't address the first time set of issues but you have any</r>
<r t="2593.7">plans like of anyway you know</r>
<r t="2595.66">iterations thing where i could share between i would instances like i don't make about</r>
<r t="2601.74">yours might</r>
<r t="2602.87">what will address so definitely we have plans but that's also hard so currently you</r>
<r t="2608.07">cannot share between two hundred instances so we don't have like federation like diaspora for</r>
<r t="2613.55">instance we can follow different user accounts other that's definitely a consideration or like different</r>
<r t="2619.09">something want to do because then you can have your like now we can share</r>
<r t="2623.45">files so definitely that's a plan</r>
<r t="2628.92">so with</r>
<r t="2631.15">i guess all the ask that you end up producing and they're number popular sweets</r>
<r t="2635.56">of web apps already available store you have are concerned about redundant efforts or just</r>
<r t="2641.41">wasting like your own pro to because like than brand board of like a bunch</r>
<r t="2645.47">of like the</r>
<r t="2647.29">that we like nice to use or anything so that would be my answer mighty</r>
<r t="2652.66">i mean there are these things and like i mean the duplicated effort things often</r>
<r t="2657.58">something which is mention an open source but i think</r>
<r t="2660.7">it's also good that we have like multiple things and sometimes they're just outdated projects</r>
<r t="2665.26">and it's a it's like this behemoth of piece of software and no one actually</r>
<r t="2670.37">like or some people like to use a maybe but i think it's good to</r>
<r t="2674.46">just like start a new from time to time and to make something new something</r>
<r t="2680.29">simpler</r>
<r t="2682.42">so i totally get your point but i think it's good to just make a</r>
<r t="2686.56">new it was a newsreader for instance there has been time ten yards as</r>
<r t="2691.9">which i think i wanna</r>
<r t="2695.42">calling names or whatever but it like it doesn't look like that new right it</r>
<r t="2699.13">does look like feebly or whatever and i think with the companies that we did</r>
<r t="2705.06">a very good very simple newsreader at which looks very good it's very simple to</r>
<r t="2710.02">use</r>
<r t="2711.66">and it's</r>
<r t="2713.98">just starting from zero and we did something good</r>
<r t="2726.05">i think it's not switch on</r>
<r t="2732.28">okay also about and federation of any</r>
<r t="2737.62">are there any plans a for the is showing without to users without account say</r>
<r t="2744.68">i want to send a file to my</r>
<r t="2747.66">a friend</r>
<r t="2749.17">it's not very i think also well</r>
<r t="2751.48">have to on a on a account</r>
<r t="2754.34">and a it see that's we directed then locking page he will okay</r>
<r t="2761.1">so there is already a publicly feature so you can actually already do that like</r>
<r t="2764.8">you can you just say share publicly like it's publicly like it's really it's a</r>
<r t="2769">tokenized link you can also password protected actually so actually private so you can just</r>
<r t="2775.72">send that link to them and they're like if it's an image to get a</r>
<r t="2778.86">preview if it's a "'cause" the pulled or something we can download it on so</r>
<r t="2783.46">that's already possible</r>
<r t="2788.28">any more questions or</r>
<r t="2791.37">otherwise we can like just let's talk and that's let's try to a collaborate more</r>
<r t="2799.11">thanks again</r>
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