i know might to is about
building
but writing a duplicate three tutorial
more specifically i did you can three tutorial for by then
but
please look at this is like a starting because it's not at the but i
think it had ideas that can be used it in a lot about that
experiences
so
it's okay
do you know use one year ago i was you
and
i want to select
i wanted to learn
i nearly five so i said okay let's start with iphone
years ago the situation with this
that was the G T K three reference manuel but see
what longer a lot of
methods for each we just
and that's you some knowledge i wasn't there
that way many tutorials for G T K if i can which is okay to
update that anyway everywhere
that was a digit again reject python tutorial by sebastian those the
very well done know will though at the time it was not complete a
and we was not them don't or again i think that's
bit of a problem
there where video tutorials
but i think that's a video tutorial is a bit hard to follow you have
to
so you have a what your bit of the tutorial
then
try to rip and here's what what's done in the tutorial see words
then go back to the video
that
try to reproduce the next step and so on so
i don't think they are taught
i know that or on the develop we don't know we don't like that where
the ten minutes tutorials for examples
like image of you where
but if you are a complete beginner
me too much i think
so here comes my project for be the oblivious must
first of all find a nice mentor non financial all ski very nice
set up one
it was already there so
so far so good
follow the plan
you know exactly have planned but
we will see that
be something it doesn't do much mention as
i was young and foolish
but i don't know
it was something hobble
want to or you
know about or so
you want to contribute you know you go to you know go to work and
you find
one tutorial
that
cakes all that's good you know or you thought this is a toyota where there
and makes them vector
sorry that's been nice
what happened
theory it one practise it there
we change your plan what it worked so here's this way
first one
which was the planned a or there and it was followed until
last year
a collection of pages
organise using plus harder to
for each we just
one page a
sometimes a couple for the more tricky we just like
three new
or a combo box
but generally when we just one page one page one we just
and each page
had a picture of the well so nice
break description of the we'd what that we just
the code that's used for writing big so
yep
some useful methods
not all the method so
because it would be too long
problem
an experienced programmer would have found it
maybe a bit too easy but
most important
and that's a little bit easier would have finally too hard
collection of pages there's we don't spend i hello
put together
so i think you know things okay i'll start with the window
that's good
i see now i live near here let's try that one i
they don't even they didn't even know how to
i did a whole an image so that we know that the there basically not
not good
second one
the ways to move through the material
this is an expert
and it he moves through the material
as he or she wants
again collection of
classifier you're an expert
you know what you want you but there
this is not a dinner
i would be have a progressive pages
you start with that we know that and you move dramatic knee much but we
know i'd you know able to the we know
so
also that like two types of pages
the we just pages
as before and it's on here pages
for instance what you want to
to at the bottom and what be john is
i recap on the ideas of signal thing callbacks
would like
but
you do it before
this was the progression pages more or less production windows
images the labels
we don't scrolling because they don much program with its buttons
start a sparse thinner
and we just search everything trade
but that's you
menus dialogues menus
we using late as much as possible
so the lectures
model view controller declines com about sent excuse
i do you and finally custom we just
easy and hard
if you're an expert
having show off the
useful method
yes
okay
the few
and you don't need the
you very pages
but if you are a beginner i guess
you have
the image of the
of the we just
okay that's what it is
a description of what it
okay
and that this well
in which you crash
the
called for example was
commented had
more or less it was one line of code and before that
what the line was a going to do
this was
in theory a good
thing
for the newcomer but
okay you have a window the code is not much
you have a three you
but if you have a quick for tree view
still i'll you kinda lost
so
one
from here it is
this one was started in brno
this year so it's you
there are how to wise for super experts they are first see
your super export usually know see
and the idea is the
you already know
F almost everything but you have heard of this new technology this new thing you
want to know a bit more
you got there
there's was there are snippets of code not much
and you learn something
here right over tea
it will use the man behind this
then for
sport right so
but that's you have you have you have a sky
like for twelve
work hard people
but i mean it's that or else
we how but i would postpone the were on the be used tutorials
i don't concentrating on know what i think is
the most important thing
or you for
again
again a progression of pages
year harder
more your pages done before
not don't give most anything for correcting
but we just pages
what do i mean we about your which page let's see
a picture for example
and that
what the we just us
this is things are very important if you are you are
you
okay you know what do we know we use
but do you know the difference when you start
did you know the difference between a radio button
and
talk about
i didn't
so you have to explain very well
then and this is supportive maybe
asked that by step the idea all writing of the called projects
no more cool don't
you start with we are going to do this
i had some thing
this is more or less what the
vts it
but we are doing it
not only but a
but on a page
so you can were good
you can switch back and forth well but you don't have the passage of
stopping the video you can go through it
actual base i think is
useful method again
all that useful method your big you know you don't want to
your over help by
all the methods for come
exercises
very useful
very boring to write
but so useful
so how much is done
not much story
what
is
being done is
here
for the general get station
how this is the company show
if you want to do
and this is
like that the beginning rested or you know
so what
javascript tutorial at this that
the by when i know the why
are there because it it's what i worked
but this can be generalised
javascript
i for the one better it's taken care of that
and i think we should work you need to because
your but there again
you know
by that and javascript
but you're not an expert
it not there
so
you read a bit of the by then
page on a bit of the javascript enjoy combining them together you understand it matter
same for see
if there are any volunteers for this
thank you for libraries
suggested for priorities are very well
and
what else
what all those are
one race
for the future for the distant future so
first i would like to have
something more concrete but
there are something fish
they're active
court academy style
wow
what would like
finally
one
what are we going to what the this
about or don't know not all of course
so help as well i think that would be a good idea
your newcomer keep on saying this
this is the whole point to
developer don't know don't or
the value for new
now that's something for the it guys
you want to start i want to learn but
not of a very
sell
a link in the hell for
section
states that is saying
would you like to contribute would like to
do so
the only to developer don't like it
but something that put fifty
it's a good idea
okay
we think i'm sorry
it comfy and
thank you very much
i questions
me
but
so which is it different to tool for point in jobs people she
okay going to be like lurched the same steps of doing the same page or
you don't like different we just we just
norman but
i think that we should a heap the beaches
i think that are possible
but of course it it's not possible
so
happy that that's because of the differences between the which is
so same example
would be a good idea
but
of course the pathogen the that by that but will be at a different and
rewarded the if you have different features for each tutorial well for each other which
make it the synchronise so
i'm going to work in that other side we are in the first that's but
yes we talk with my about
how we are present that tutorials wait for example and it's a time and a
lot of the way that google organise it api references where you can say
between different languages i think i saw he that he out that way makes sense
to keep the pages that right as smart as say that that's a that's
i'm just looking or on the truth put enormous the be useful
for the little bit i don't again you that would use but i would just
go to the put a maybe looking the there's a need to book so
sorry
so there is to do it know of the of the list of all possible
but we could which is this problem with all the paper you and bruce for
two weeks
it's
it
then maybe we should promote
they want to use it
i have are also talk
the idea of having developer that's it
well what we have use is to having the accessible
in some cases would be a really good idea we fix all those in languages
cheesecake the tree you folks so who
but
the you look to the company has there been and it looks well actually printed
up with them
no it as i said it
but future in the future
i would like to have a
something
down
first that and then maybe change a that
and it's a something
but if somebody wants to
do that
you should allow them
but i think that is that it's
it would
that or analogies from what we need now
what what's your opinion on the topic having
you know like gamer some application that's very but it's really working but then it's
very easy to start a small things about it like of this was in the
tips you know on the second day for getting kids interested in programming by giving
them but up that they can
we maybe we could have something like this with you know what form like something
sort of like the show an application that could be justly customise or extend do
than a lot of ways you think that this is interesting you use i think
would be interesting
i think this would fall and the
i mean that's just toying L
part to
so
you
alright you know some theory
and then you go back to that maybe know to
it would be
i mean
and don't and thinking about this now how that
this to be a good idea
i think
maybe it's just the way how you know
i think that
you usually start with that
found
theory X out of course not just a theory
and then
you build something
so it would be a good idea
we know
maybe
so the game a example to where you know whatever
whatever
with the
specify the program is it so you have to be at least here in the
tutorial
the game you say six plus five class of people dies for at this age
for what yes
and
okay this could also be a challenger
you don't have you haven't done or the tutorial the basics just or and you
try
doing the
okay you suggested without see so
you push yourself if you don't know
something you go back to the just you know
yes i think so
you can more than the
i mean at the thought you know i mean or combined with and minutes tutorial
sorry
you
it
i think that
one of things that
happened in the last year was the translators that these you saying cold that kurt
that basically get it's the lay or G Q W I file and renders it
on and but page using the probably back and for G T K
and why things that could be useful to do would be to
i that
to do you like cold academy style but not really
so you can basically just see that you why then you're preaching and having stuff
and maybe using javascript to connect a signal send induced
so that could be an interesting way to centralise the stuff without going for court
economy
yes it in the back so because
that that's one
and i think is something like mission the small examples and then we this to
do stuff and
a story
for get it like topics like jic a tree view
assuming we don't really inside you to get so soon
i think a those are will be complex to actually handle so
i don't know if we should just have like
small that orioles for those kind of thing
it interesting idea for that you could you could you example would be to do
all the you obnoxious annoying work you have to do to get one up running
but leave the functions that provide the actual data and the and the connected like
is that all that
and in doing so forces you to go in there and see how that's all
set up and then like you can you can you can copy this that and
other programs or use that as a basis for thirteen euros
i think that
between
actually i
combine like i think
we can get somewhere
very
okay i have one question i'm working and using known for like ten years
and the biggest problem always something documentation not for usual hackers like because crackers usually
find things when they have to
but the tutorial is always have been a big problem for us
i see i kind of i cannot agree with all ideas you have
finally gets into because it's not easy just that's what i wanted to ask is
that is that very concrete time plan all this because you know always these documentation
ideas there floating around
it would be very good to have something first for some like to be complete
and then thing how to improve it's because it's usually well we this cost is
only called ideas people are reading people also think me hope to do this in
G T K or that's and i say i just to do and just go
with the mass
and in the and then ask that all to the number hard course from channel
in
in it's team but so is there any one yes so that's or something which
is that
the second line that that's complete that was done now
a
that was done X
in a
but where last year so it's not a today to but because no project yes
okay and
custom widget was that it more recently and
i don't think it's a great they but at least it's something
but for the rest that it was done do over
that well that all i can you get a the U R L later i
don't remember it might hard to but maybe you at the idea would be but
you should be able to honestly because it's like no one actually knows that it's
finished and so everyone votes
sparse knowledge at that a one more thing us something like that can laugh are
between the first and the second line that is already there for
jobless create a lot and see
maybe slightly for warren
but it's already there for those languages as well okay
okay
and questions more than that's
what i second
well you have
it's not question is just a i you because well some people english on the
well maybe chinese to english just is not of the first thing which so instead
and any idealist well by a mm more see how it is
or call i will call a compound mean so when they come to decide they
can they can name something about is like you well what we did get a
one page and they passed these a disco and they will get some package i
think that will push a some if you people to then and the second one
of these when you log into the for example call that mean then we show
they will show the chinese i think that is very important and the website they
have a profile to tattle and we can have a payphone to translate the description
to the czech you don't run is all of our regulation a show i think
that might be good for the beginner so i think maybe sometimes the is not
difficult to start to write some call and then cellphone the G D K i
think maybe for some students how to
to see the whole the total disk option to do an editorial you know we
try to use the will go ahead now to help us that started out of
the real we stuff be keener so you know the focus you start of real
okay they can just focus and or where the might be twenty meetings or well
more we have infrastructure for all of these be translated which is translated actually okay
so there's also this oil package which okay that virtually anywhere actually
so
is it any that the base you know
that there is the paying as you have a pen what they call the old
and they case so when you freeze on some scale they will give it back
to prove you have the sound scale like that we the variational we can a
thing like that this is actually a
because i think i love my we have we asia because if you have batch
of the school we'll we can manage you have then you have and then some
see so you don't need to then and not assumption in school so O D
C and i think we to assess it was things you know that we do
university student in taiwan and meant to some service but the server that are we
what the what we only select in the school
no do something clean the school so we saw seven for you to make it
a place for all the while change light always sauce people far
and to repress only you have to something going to school so if we have
a page something like that so we can we can tell the priest for make
and then some and something of good we still opens also least thirty K and
to reprise to something sort of these things school back to me
i see like a good idea one thing a well with the dog the internationalisation
team on tuesday morning projects joins you
us for suggestions very of focus by us for suggestions a very focus
i would suggest rather not very so focus which is like everything other than G
T K i think the docks team in the past has gotten into trouble trying
to cover too many bits that used to require everything because you really need to
have like that one thing and go with the and i think that things should
obviously did you okay
i would the
tires
hundred okay
and maybe a worth
for that people working on
thing that
and
we
if we where
one whole
like put a light where which the load but
people
one time
the up here
there's a couple of our is that are not quite related to the G T
K thing that i think should mention a better than in that role you know
i was looking previously a couple of them or how should you lay out your
program what folders should have where she's alive risky
what fine is truly using you should have the
it quick introduction of the in by from this up to support how you packaging
it
and that's the main code should be an only close the library and all those
things because
this
how a lot of confusion especially when you just showing snippets on the code page
of people the cup of them or place and straight document running is and they
would have a complete mess that they can never disputed and one
many of those things
trying to put a bin do maintain owns translations
and of things
all those things all the media and that
also needs to be told only
i mean the still know you got all sitting up at C based program of
what will use files to be by
how should we can figure out of no you just copied from get it
because that's additional way of doing things
yes
thinking about a way to
around it
very real problem
okay i'm really introduction
to that
to tori out
and of it like that and that the people that are looking for the think
that have but we don't land on that
page without going through the auditory out so maybe
i know i need to say this is a part project or an see internet
can
okay thank
well
i don't know i about it i think it
i think that quite nicely into the idea of having a preformed application the this
design to be are done because then have these you're starting out with a fully
worked out of tools from something that nominally hopefully was designed to be a good
starting point for your project rather than just taking some random project and copying whatever
they have i think that might be apartments are and another thing is that i
don't know if you know but and you know will you go in and start
a new project girls that out a bunch of other tools you already
the mean will talk about them in the tutorial will be powerful
so that should be do that but on the way as well
the symbol small things and i think it's a page that should be a break
to all the application this is how we should be looking at be something nice
small yours
so you should do this
why we do this in the do this world
that's
that's the whole point of the stuff like that
and
it is in the
interesting be done a with the
comments
on the
whole on that went out
when we used to have a
if you look now to the
to the for that we have now
of the story our the one with the world school the day talked about
this was achieved or trying to share with the
one line that of comment and that
what we are doing commented
how we are doing what we are going to do this is that we do
and so on
but now but being transformed into the that like that
for
better rhythm your
sorry
i was interested in asking you i know a just reading that minutes from that
from the board meetings i see mention of the board having contacted open about and
doing a beginner's workshops and things like that and i know that for the open
hatch workshops they do interactive coding you know they use coding
and so i was wondering if and we were meant you were mentioning court academy
we do you think it might you good idea to see what the do you
know what the board was talking to know and also and i'm sorry maybe like
something together that i think that
and i was mentioning for that how then you
because it was our the first example but okay and i know i know everyone
know that we also very famous but i think that open heart is also very
interesting it's a very good the project so
i will
i will ask members of the board
why the about that
the students
my question is
you have any plans
to have an academic course material or no problem
no not now
if
well let me answer that question was a don't please some academic stuff basically the
problem is that no problem in is a very a rapidly changing topic as it
is just so i'm not academic an awful it's a not something that is do
not an awful that the last long
actually i
like that with have like that
my way of learning
is
what thirty at the end of the exercise a little leery vendor the exercise that
off
the exercise
play around and then the right from that the theory that you need to
what i was thinking is that is a very then we have thinking
so i think that
to all here if you discard the
ten minutes tutorial lady against and so one know that we discussed before
you could
and easily for almost easily i doubt
the beginners tutorial
when academic ca
syllables but
my only experience of
teaching and academia with
being at forum ask for so
and that was some years ago
suggest a lot of material
just
it's