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okay so let's get started with they talk
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problem for women's that we have

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you gonna in don't really since two thousand
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it in two thousand and nine O we can introduce or no okay

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this is for questions later okay and
also you know we were able to apply

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a lot of the lessons that we learned a certain
entries problem for women are

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to run in our outreach program and
google summer of code in general

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so first like non joint google summer of code
in two thousand and five which

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was the first years it was doing a google
summer put in a i believe

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most people here know really well global summer
codas but for those who don't it's

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a problem where a google bayes students five
thousand dollars for three months of some

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of work a on a different free software projects
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different free such organisations participating and don't
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since two thousand and five so you know
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in a two thousand six hunter will can principle
know what is that like among

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hundred eighty applications that norm received for
global summer of code you know twenty people

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was selected that your but one hundred an eighties
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they decided is that they could do something about it and

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started the first of the know women some
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like really trailblazer because that's when
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in a community where people said you know
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they might just not be interested and
that's how it is and they had the

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received about a hundred applications and that
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in a six women participated was known for
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just the same here right after the google
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saying that once that we are communities that
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to apply for google summer of code
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you know the numbers improved slightly but
we were like getting like this kind of

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binary code one zero one zero like you
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was one woman in a particular year

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and also so that was like around the time
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can all it and what it can just of the nine which was my a

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and second what can grant can area so
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is in that actually meant each women and
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i like started looking into this i started
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that picture but later and the raffle women
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like karen sensor or some on her hers
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there so more women are keen to me
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like you know they words there to
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maybe is a one more like i also kind
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the don't picture i don't know exactly
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about five percent that were eight women at the conference

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the gonna condition like really noticed that
and they approached me ask me to organised

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the outreach problem for women to revive
the previous efforts that we had so i

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was like really new to this type of

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activity because i was a software engineer
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really

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focus my attention on that before i was
asked and then like when i start

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thinking about it and when i started
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what women participation tracks like i want
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that present high nowhere on and you know
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that you know we should be doing something about it and

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and basically a the first thing i started
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google some of but so we created an average
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also said that okay like we should
make it an ongoing initiative

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but we started by encouraging women to bifocals
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ten a that you're like we already had like
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women and we kind of did a round of introductions
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you know also in the end like that were
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summer of code and all only one participated
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high turnout so this is like when
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do in the dedicated internships

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and this is how you noses poster came
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dedicated internships

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and we are aware doing them twice a year

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and we had eight to twelve participants
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some around in parallel with google
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in white women to apply for both programs
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where able to participate in google summer
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kicked up the number of women that
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and also you know we have more women
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was seventeen percent women at the project
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eighteen percent and this year will also
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with triple the number of speakers a whole
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so we have twenty one percent women speakers
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you know stepping up in our community
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you know the program seem to work
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why was tickets working

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so well we're doing this in brno
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free software project still like last year can
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joints twelve free several projects in the last three years

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and for the norm fifty percent of respondents
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percent of respondents where women and like this
is your to fifteen basics highest concentration

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was stuff like an but still and we can
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that actually meant like to women replied from
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a still and in fact like we had don't
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of the project combined

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so people in the wider free software community
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we're representation in the project and
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behalf of like all those projects to do
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had i'd say when in formula up we started
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and last summer free separate conservancy was
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of like stealing from want to which you
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was like the hardest pro problem and
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this number of skilled from to too many and

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and that's you can see the a good all
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and now we have more of

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free software robots

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so this is this is the information about
how much the program has grown a

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right now we have us thirty seven in terms participating
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includes we comedian was the lot and
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open a morass lots of great projects

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and you know at the same time like
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culture's changing and in google summer
of code goes we'll team and

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i and the either initiative after that
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to participate in free software are
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just years there's a nine point five percent
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women and like that number has been
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earlier years and like another example
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only ever had like one woman participative
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work which is to be in a in the access problem for women

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this year as a summer they have seven
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summer of course participants this year are
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had with also increase in the number of women
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of code is like was basically replicated by a bikini D a

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and accurately sponsors of the surround a longer
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sponsors and then mostly other musicians our sponsor
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choose their initiation specifically

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but yes of really just you know we're learning
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of great projects to advance women's
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if a having mean workmen's this which
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go park with helped us dropped the contracts
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people are applying i mean first things
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because this just seems to grab their attention
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that would thing might single unlike what they've
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is really open to them and something that
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that woman was mentors which ensures that
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do an application process and we really

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emphasise the application process what we want
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so we require a contribution during the application
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i think is just like also really important
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are qualified and you know both them
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experience and also we ask people to spread
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marketing perspective making a sample tweet an example
e-mail available for people you know helps

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some spread the word for you

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they need to be

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they three months internships is because
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quite behind when us a feast was technology where

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kind of the after that you know if you
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attached to them and women where so providing that
focused opportunity to work and something

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for three months to really developed experience

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to basically catch up is essential for to jumpstart

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a women's participation free software

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and also we depart somewhat from like what's
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like google summer of code messages this originally
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the project

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in you know put like put you idea into
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learned that doesn't quite work for global
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changed approach to it as well so we're
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unmanageable that allow participants like interns to
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happens beautification of lending something

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and also definitely they have to be like
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also relevant so you kinda have to accept at the project
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a so basically we define the actual for women
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which is more free flowing and

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we apply that to will some of go to
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and another very important things that we're doing was
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to block every are two weeks

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and first that increases the visibility of their
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know that women are participating make women
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transition to have an a discourse

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in the project that just gradually changed
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aware of the fact that women are part of the conversation
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force that issue and say like let's just like

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drop all the corny jokes how but people became
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are visible in the community and you know
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like linux kernel which right now is
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about what is the appropriate language
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and i think that we're doing is the team

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yes this is the programs open to both non
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extensive field you know we want we definitely
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in general but at least right now
we are able to do that was in

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the out reach program for women

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and nancy this is also very important because that
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work in a on free software

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after this students you know and free suffer
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barrier to entry you don't need to have
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so you know people from different walks of life
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and the couple of the points and
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some like a woman might still be like
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she's working on we have this community
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other and kinda network and i have the support
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and of both men and women who are mentors
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face to face communication like we're having
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you know that's what gets people addicted
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events and encourage other organisations to
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introduced to five how hundred dollar allowance
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insurance and that's actually some sort
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for travelling to relevant events

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program and you know we of course encourage

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participants to stay involved to continue working
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cement are shipping teen years and i have also
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and you know many step up to have very
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and also like it's important for us as organisers
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for both other from for women and google
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people have their own life and like that

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path like you know it's great to have
like a very fast online so somebody

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moved on two different community or to
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haven't been able to share of values was
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and knowing that more people understand it
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important

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so that in itself is tremendous value and privilege of

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have an you know being able to have those internships
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and you know you might have seen some
of those flights in my talk at

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the A G M yesterday but here are some
examples of how the alumnis of

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the program are starting initiatives that in there

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local

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areas and also going off to conferences
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so now like to switch to like what
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we applied to make known better for everybody

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things that came out of this is that
i don't know has a mentors list

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that you know basically mentors for everybody
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is just so important just like haven't this
human touch like i'm just like remember

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in like five years like i don't for
this word a five yourself look at

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this like a slide of like a hand with
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human touch and i think this is just
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you know people who can give you a hand
right and going on now like

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it started was like nine mentors for the actors
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outreach problem for women and then we've
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a lot of initiative and right now has
forty six mentors and i'd really cars

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people to add themselves to it

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along with that like of course we've been improving
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with created and you commerce tutorial a step
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the process of downloading in brno module submitting
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it cools in a bog so just really something
that helps people get started and

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about forty people have gone through system the last
and months and then actually alters

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from for women participants have worked on developer
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javascript and see and pies and so we know
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was those we have you know other

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initiatives that i'm not directly related
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our you know what we do to make

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you know newcomers haven't immediately finding
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you know the can on lot harder and the every
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where they identify a

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bugs and features that they definitely want
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those a great beginner to intermediate task

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and you know ever since that we did
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kind applied to google summer of code
as well i said before we did not

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require tool summer of code applicants to engage
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to work on do an application appeared
we just said you know give us the

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link to some bulk you sold in free software and i

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this engagement and like during the application process and

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seen simple bugs some simple patches land kinda
makes a detective and very encouraging and

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to the students and prepare is them
to start to be ready to dive in

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into their project so you know is i
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an exceptionally high rate of engagements
was i will summer of good students

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we also require everybody to block see it
used to be a requirement that people

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have to send their updates to me a little
list and then we realise that

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the meal on this is mostly just being read
by other insurance and we realise

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that you know it's really good to get
people to just blog on the planet

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and you know get the feedback from the community
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also feel more integrated with the community
and again we have the size more manageable

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agreed-upon tasks instead of like grant idea projects

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and you know we do things together like
for a you know which free bows

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programs as our outreach program both google
summer of code and outreach group for women

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you know what do i i'd yearbook a post
last year and this year with

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your screen there

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never believe very special and to see and then
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and you want to more for quite a few actually

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and tiffany

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and those the things you can do it
to help like you know first just

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be mentor you know put yourself out there
so that you know somebody can get

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your help and become as awesome as you are

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and also you know think about the beginners
how like how would the beginner approach

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your project like have good resources for
them have step by step tutorials you know

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be ready to point to

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easy tasks i think you know i said like we have too much of

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you know kind of scratch around each
at this is where we just in well

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like your newcomer like you know

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what do you want to work on like to
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i just and that we need to do a better
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to

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small tasks that are definitely something that
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their experience of landing that first
batch is how likely it is that we will

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help them and that actual and because that's
something that we want to see landed

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so maximise in the good experience over
you know prove your rock star it's i

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think it's a good approach

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and then a for both the opportunities that
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know we have the internships and for any
opportunities that you know but in your

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city you know we are now collecting you know

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information about women groups in different cities
and different lot calls and those two links

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you know and both of them if you
go to the outer sprung for women

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spread the word you can find they
are the links there as well and i

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you know and the second link is basically
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universities so if there is an advantage
and you're like well women are just not

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sure not they're not interested i know that's
not the keys just invite them invite

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them like take you know take make the extra effort to

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and information about events to of women
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makes a difference

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we followed and like you know we're really
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you know last year we had as many women at the conference

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but without us like actually encouraging women to

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to as well to supply talks and do talks

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i think fewer would have been doing that
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conference organisers across free software have found
that you know when you typically approach an

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out and out some like do you have an idea for a talk at the

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conference they would like brainstorm five ideas
was you and when you approach you woman

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she would say well i'm not and that
i'm not the expert and like you

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know and the ideas that like you don't
have to be the expert you can

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be an expert you know something talk about
it and so making an extra effort

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to encourage women to say yes you have
things to talk about please go and

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talk about it at the conference really

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make sense in

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promoting the visibility of women in the project

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you know more

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specifically also you know if you're the companies
it's not yet sponsor not rich problem

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for women a please consider getting your
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and you know if you're donating money to the confrontation
you couldn't possibly here mark

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damped was the a control for women were basically
go and each and sponsors outreach

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problem for women internships itself so you know
and intonation to signal condition would help

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i also would like to talk about a couple

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other initiatives that are making the free suffers
base more welcoming to women because you

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know we we're really need to climate change
and i think what we're doing and

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don't is like at a really big part
of the climate change but

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you know nobody can do it alone and it's great
to have different decision approach

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and it from different angles and i'd say
that all's serene like post can open

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teach an open hatch and need initiative
are confronted in a question of a low

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participation of women in free software from
three different angles and so here just kind

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of funny that like you know this looks
like a chicken and then tag and

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we do have the bit over chicken an ad
problem we are you know few

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women are participating in free software because
few women are participating in free software and

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they don't think that the are culture is friendly
to women's participation so those two

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organisations there are trying to solve this problem
from two different angles open hatch is

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running workshops a for students

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at universities and they probably around like
over a dozen workshops right now a believe

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all somewhere in united states but they're they have
exceptional materials online for their workshops

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and write ups from sam and they usually try
to organise those workshops rules the

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women in computer science other groups at the university
like they open to all students

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but they would make this extra effort to invite
women and basically those are introduction

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to free software like what is free software
what is tools used for free software

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and help in a participants fix simple
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eight initiative is

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approaches this from a different angle where
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view of what do we need to do to make
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so they have a created an anti harassment
policy of version of which we are

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has been adopted by over a hundred free supper conferences
including quite that they're creating

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the running at camp of and

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once or twice a year is that a bring women
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culture together and the last event had about two hundred

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participants and also had an L extract from an a to

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to help kinda

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distill how many can be helpful and in

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promoting discos and you know it like
i've been to i to cams and it's

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a fantastic of and because you see
a lot of like minded people you

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see a lot of people like doing things to

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to change you know to change the ratio
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in you know in their projects

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so more things that you can do a to help
with those organisations which would

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also promote our participation of women
in free software is the

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create an open hatch profile so like they
also have an online component where i

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think norm should be better represented in the fact
that we are friendly project and

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as they have

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you know profiles for mentors on their side
that i encourage people to create and

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also they have contests material so you can
austin open hedge workshop and they have

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like also like those like

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online missions fully cluring different batch and get

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and also you like installation instructions
that you can use doing that workshop

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you know if you are

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run in organising a conference you should seriously
consider have an anti harassment policy

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also at camp is a fantastic event in a the usually
have a portion of

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it that's you know for women only and
of course that for men and women

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so i'd encourage tendon it because

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you know that gives you a big picture of what's
happening in free software across

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all of free software up to make it more diapers

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and also it can't i am so i recently
be team and advisor for the

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E D initiative so i definitely feel very passionate about

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they of course because i think we need
this big picture change when users

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all too much at the current for women in free software

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that

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you know is doing something that's like very complimentary
to what the confrontation is doing

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and they have just or their find raised
in drive for this year and it's

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basically an organisation that's run by two
people and one of them was a choral

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and filesystems hacker attract had just
you know had to quit her job and start

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this nonprofit and they're not looking to
hire third person and a i think it's

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just it's an essential organisation for a promoting
to diversity in free software so i

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would really encourage people to donate to it
and also open hatches a fantastic because

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the kind of few works that they're doing
is much needed so you know as

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it run an open hatch workshop may university
in your city would donate to open

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hexes that they can com to university
or invite them to come to a your

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university

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so i've tentatively scheduled the women
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wednesday so we can

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have more of a discussions there and you know
we you purposefully leaving this like

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very open ended you know we can just talk
about anything to talk about doctors

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problem for women but we also can talk just
about you know challenges that like

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why we're doing any sin in particular about women's
participation in free software in technology

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like

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like what is a situation like why

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like why we

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doing this write a so yes is there
is a boston thank you and other

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questions

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so scores since D those don't so much
from you know one just those

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to so many other or incisions this year you are

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experience like any growing pains

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if you see what i mean

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yes i most about growing pains have been technical
which you like really well from

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are familiar with like we need an application
system and you know i know that

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to be on an entry it's and we have
some great to get involved with

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help that's build

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an application system because i couldn't handle
and this over a mailing list and it

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kind of worked when we have like thirty
five applicants will be known but this

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year we had like a hundred over a hundred
applicants a across a the sixteen

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organisations and it became i completely unmanageable
through mailing list so i said let's like

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our biggest growing pain that we need an application
system but it's i think really

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like one

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abbreviations join us like they have you know
basically like condor parts of me like

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they are who are like really excited to a

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to participate in to run it so it does
have like this kind of distributed

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a few of google summer of code even
though we do try to you know

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00:37:28,860 --> 00:37:35,060
provide more ideas about how to make this
work us as a user consistent requirements

461
00:37:35,060 --> 00:37:38,750
across all projects and i haven't really mentioned it but

462
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:40,520
i had it on

463
00:37:41,720 --> 00:37:43,410
one of the slides and that's like

464
00:37:44,420 --> 00:37:49,930
you have to planet know it's my favourite
login aggregate or i don't know i

465
00:37:49,930 --> 00:37:56,410
sure really big favourite between planet norman
a women in free software planted i highly

466
00:37:56,410 --> 00:38:04,690
recommend everyone to like added to the roster of what
street it's extremely it's inspirational

467
00:38:04,690 --> 00:38:11,680
so in addition to be included on the planets
a of stay organisation organisations we

468
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,880
possibly interns to be included on this planet

469
00:38:19,230 --> 00:38:20,380
any more questions

470
00:38:24,460 --> 00:38:28,690
you may not a how do you think we
can improve and the you know

471
00:38:28,690 --> 00:38:34,640
the sticking around radio of participants i mean
specially in google somewhere code a lot

472
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:39,890
of participants did not stick around after
two program and this is we could apply

473
00:38:39,890 --> 00:38:43,780
for improvement is more successful than some
of couldn't to dot extension as far as

474
00:38:43,780 --> 00:38:49,630
i know but still there a certain number of participants
that did not stick around

475
00:38:49,630 --> 00:38:56,060
but leaving we could do was a community
members mentors all of us

476
00:38:56,510 --> 00:38:57,420
right

477
00:38:58,580 --> 00:39:00,640
so i think like what been better

478
00:39:01,070 --> 00:39:06,230
about it for a whole summer of code
as well so i definitely things that

479
00:39:06,230 --> 00:39:12,450
have an very high standards during the selection
process it's very important have this like

480
00:39:12,450 --> 00:39:14,250
engagement period where

481
00:39:15,380 --> 00:39:21,680
the applicants already knows the mentor and have
already like shown what what's a capable

482
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:27,340
of during the application process is essential
for us to be selecting the right candidates

483
00:39:27,750 --> 00:39:31,250
and then i you know i think

484
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:36,800
mentioned you know i feel like
the stickiness factor is good

485
00:39:37,240 --> 00:39:39,520
but i feel like it's not like

486
00:39:40,100 --> 00:39:43,050
and ultimate measure of success in some ways because

487
00:39:43,690 --> 00:39:48,810
if you like you know it's normal that you
know people might develop also interested

488
00:39:48,810 --> 00:39:53,540
people might want to pursue other interests
you know so i think it's

489
00:39:53,820 --> 00:39:54,650
just

490
00:39:55,270 --> 00:40:01,180
haven't like people have a good experience
and like learn what it is like what

491
00:40:01,180 --> 00:40:08,900
free staffers about what can almost about itself
is extremely valuable but decided like you

492
00:40:08,900 --> 00:40:13,460
know we should just you know engage was
people you know engage before they it

493
00:40:13,460 --> 00:40:17,100
a do an application process engage during
the internship you know bring people to a

494
00:40:17,100 --> 00:40:17,940
lot of you know

495
00:40:18,650 --> 00:40:23,500
but you know like i feel like you know
people are here because of course

496
00:40:23,500 --> 00:40:25,830
you know like there are a lot of winters
in this room and of course

497
00:40:25,830 --> 00:40:30,690
we would like you to stick we you
know we're happy to have you here

498
00:40:30,690 --> 00:40:33,720
but i also don't want anybody feels oppressed are just

499
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:39,920
O B I minutes left any other questions

500
00:40:50,830 --> 00:40:59,620
have you run into any challenges term so maybe
tour jury interactions that you know

501
00:41:00,250 --> 00:41:01,670
that you have to overcome

502
00:41:08,720 --> 00:41:10,910
it varies and

503
00:41:13,710 --> 00:41:16,610
i have the work individual pieces

504
00:41:18,720 --> 00:41:22,650
which i would say like would usually
be pretty individual cases where

505
00:41:24,780 --> 00:41:25,280
i mean

506
00:41:26,740 --> 00:41:30,680
you know we you know we had some you
know that there is the spectrum

507
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:35,890
writing somebody might be like very much
hands off as a mentor or somebody might

508
00:41:35,890 --> 00:41:40,800
be you know kinda you know we had like
a situation where one person the

509
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:41,790
concerted

510
00:41:41,950 --> 00:41:44,760
ourself the mentor and like not and gone home but just

511
00:41:45,100 --> 00:41:46,450
the example like and

512
00:41:47,530 --> 00:41:48,530
started like

513
00:41:49,430 --> 00:41:57,340
really given so much guidance is that it
was overwhelming and they it was like

514
00:41:57,340 --> 00:42:00,830
not see can experience we want people
to have like you know we wanted to

515
00:42:00,830 --> 00:42:06,900
be a fellowship where you know you were accomplishments
speak for themselves a and we

516
00:42:06,900 --> 00:42:11,020
don't what we don't want it to be a stressful
situation and so you know

517
00:42:11,020 --> 00:42:15,430
if somebody decided that they need to micro
manage an intern like you know that

518
00:42:15,430 --> 00:42:19,610
we don't want that a you know we will
see don't want somebody to like

519
00:42:19,610 --> 00:42:20,670
really like

520
00:42:20,950 --> 00:42:25,610
not be present into i was like the inter
reaches out doesn't like it's a

521
00:42:25,610 --> 00:42:31,600
spectrum and you know there is definitely human
factor in this then you know sometimes

522
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:35,650
interns like you know have things of their
own have an and live that you

523
00:42:35,650 --> 00:42:41,250
might affect like you know how they are
doing with the program so yes of

524
00:42:41,250 --> 00:42:45,700
human factor i would just try to make ourselves
available offer both mentors and interest

525
00:42:45,700 --> 00:42:50,120
to talk to us of is the right issues
and hopefully try to help resolve

526
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,200
some and so this

527
00:42:53,240 --> 00:42:57,650
and also like mentors like happened
you know varied expectations

528
00:42:59,170 --> 00:43:00,220
you know i think like

529
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:05,800
again like i approach is very much as a fellowship
you know people change direction

530
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,580
a you know just

531
00:43:08,700 --> 00:43:09,240
it's

532
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:14,520
i think the approach is more relaxed and like
just like giving people the opportunity

533
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:20,650
to develop themselves and you know some
mentors that to use to like very like

534
00:43:20,650 --> 00:43:24,250
creature it like will some of course structure
so we need to talk to sam's

535
00:43:24,250 --> 00:43:24,700
of this

536
00:43:25,170 --> 00:43:27,000
not helping would like just

537
00:43:29,720 --> 00:43:32,690
anybody else have any questions we just

538
00:43:41,290 --> 00:43:46,380
so what's next i mean we've been expanding
the program a lot a lot of

539
00:43:46,380 --> 00:43:49,850
other organisations are participating
and we have a lot of participants

540
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:55,150
what what's next what's your to train and then there i

541
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:57,810
i'm here

542
00:43:58,190 --> 00:43:59,300
that's a good question

543
00:44:00,620 --> 00:44:05,260
i still feel like you know the program
has like grown so much in this

544
00:44:05,260 --> 00:44:08,220
year is that we just need to iterate and like

545
00:44:08,700 --> 00:44:14,490
like you know just be more mature was like
an application system and you know

546
00:44:14,490 --> 00:44:19,890
of course you know there are hundred fifty of so
free stuff organisations participating in

547
00:44:19,890 --> 00:44:25,930
google summer of code and like you know the percentage
of women participating with a

548
00:44:25,930 --> 00:44:30,480
across a little what was like nine point
five percent and percentage of women was

549
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:34,840
organisations participate in both all P W and
google summer what was more like searching

550
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:36,030
point five percent

551
00:44:36,450 --> 00:44:38,360
i mean basically next is that

552
00:44:38,980 --> 00:44:42,350
the world joins us you know we take over the world

553
00:44:57,150 --> 00:44:58,460
no she

554
00:44:58,660 --> 00:45:04,380
so do you think there will be a meg
you know she ask what's coming

555
00:45:04,380 --> 00:45:09,070
next and do you think there will
be a moment when we want to need

556
00:45:09,070 --> 00:45:10,430
that next

557
00:45:10,810 --> 00:45:15,600
time to happen like you know like we feel like

558
00:45:15,970 --> 00:45:21,550
we are integrated right so it's a it's
a great question and i think it's

559
00:45:21,550 --> 00:45:24,740
a great question "'cause" i have and
answers that i thought of what and i

560
00:45:24,740 --> 00:45:31,050
like that question and which is a you know
well internally we might feel that

561
00:45:31,050 --> 00:45:34,880
we are integrated and you know for all
we know we will reach fifty percent

562
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:38,450
participation right in a you know we will feel like that

563
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:39,460
you know

564
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:45,600
you know women and men feel equally comfortable
in the community a but you know

565
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:49,790
the world outside of us like has a lot
of stereotypes and the lists are

566
00:45:49,790 --> 00:45:54,890
attached and not going to we easily so externally

567
00:45:55,090 --> 00:46:00,570
people might still like not know how
open we are internally so we ice i

568
00:46:00,570 --> 00:46:01,450
think that will

569
00:46:02,930 --> 00:46:06,170
will needs to be doing this for a long time

570
00:46:14,730 --> 00:46:15,760
i

571
00:46:17,500 --> 00:46:22,170
i just like sky you use an spoke about a contract

572
00:46:22,750 --> 00:46:28,630
in the air in E in the options we complement
this within their first previously

573
00:46:28,630 --> 00:46:32,000
well what is this about how and
where can we read more about it

574
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:39,350
i'm just checking like are we running
over no we have to three two minutes

575
00:46:39,350 --> 00:46:40,270
okay so

576
00:46:41,630 --> 00:46:50,520
so it's illegal contract for that mentors and
interns assigned because we just we realised

577
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:54,750
that you know we need to formalise it
more like this has been very much

578
00:46:54,750 --> 00:47:00,610
a grassroots effort for the confrontation
a but out as we have more actors in

579
00:47:00,610 --> 00:47:05,240
the legal sense in that you know we need
to protect the confrontation so you

580
00:47:05,240 --> 00:47:07,620
know things like you know that's

581
00:47:08,150 --> 00:47:10,220
give a mentor is

582
00:47:10,620 --> 00:47:14,620
you know acting badly towards an interim
but things are is that minutes use a

583
00:47:14,620 --> 00:47:20,070
confrontation it's that type of things and
that the you know the basically that it's

584
00:47:20,070 --> 00:47:23,120
a contract that project that you know foundation

585
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:31,750
from seen that are basically outside of our control
and it's basically something that you

586
00:47:31,750 --> 00:47:36,240
know karen you know where really helped
us implement and worked with

587
00:47:37,130 --> 00:47:40,330
as a rope and great a that this for us

588
00:47:41,300 --> 00:47:45,750
so that i will or a yes it's a little
for it's a little from

589
00:47:45,750 --> 00:47:49,770
that the problem no work for norman
diaspora wanna work for the common

590
00:47:50,090 --> 00:47:52,240
you know other for other things

591
00:47:53,110 --> 00:47:59,430
i just ask one more one last question
a well what is that we will

592
00:47:59,430 --> 00:48:05,230
be the what exactly are the mentors
agreed you went when we think is

593
00:48:06,530 --> 00:48:10,230
each you can put a contract because
they have to be about even they can

594
00:48:10,230 --> 00:48:13,810
see no foundation that's all fine you
know from a legal point if you that

595
00:48:13,810 --> 00:48:21,150
makes right sense are we started ignore foundation
why you know how easy it just

596
00:48:21,150 --> 00:48:28,060
right it's a sign some so it's mentors across all
those sixteen organisations participate in

597
00:48:28,060 --> 00:48:31,030
this year so it's people we don't know

598
00:48:31,570 --> 00:48:39,220
is it's not just the confrontation are a male
members it's people across many organisations

599
00:48:39,220 --> 00:48:43,370
and i don't remember like this specifics
of the terrace but i mean some of

600
00:48:43,370 --> 00:48:47,470
it is basically just saying you know how
you will be available and provide help

601
00:48:47,470 --> 00:48:48,780
to see in turn

602
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,020
i mean maybe there is like a reverse statement that like

603
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:54,110
if

604
00:48:54,430 --> 00:48:59,980
you know inter and you know all the problem
for our mentors and ugliness you

605
00:48:59,980 --> 00:49:01,970
that know phonation like it's basically

606
00:49:02,410 --> 00:49:05,550
i mean i'll probably have to talk
to cared about was a we can make

607
00:49:05,550 --> 00:49:12,280
those are public or you know like and
show them to anybody interested

608
00:49:14,730 --> 00:49:18,750
but basically we just have like so many
people involves this now that we have

609
00:49:18,750 --> 00:49:22,390
like that we don't know that we needed to formalise

610
00:49:23,020 --> 00:49:24,160
okay that's good

611
00:49:25,990 --> 00:49:27,810
anybody else i mentioned

612
00:49:29,130 --> 00:49:33,680
i think that you know if you know it's
about time alright thank you thank

613
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,830
you everybody number first of all