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welcome to my talk and

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let's start what am i babbling about

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about brno of course like way to grab
lunch where you are well i'll tell

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you all about brno because i know a lot
about it it's my second time

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here so of course and everything

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no i'll be talking about judge you
of air go to make it make that

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happen right now in you know you don't
have for example map see don't know

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like if you want to just check weekly
where you are in map you can't

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do that so and you need to find places
and stuff so that's not there

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and you do

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do that so what do we need to do to make it the geo where

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the organ on experience

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one first thing is your location to find your
location the users location and where

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you are and sure to of course and
the next thing you need is once

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you know where you are you you're probably
finding where you are because you want

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to go to some place and want to see how
much distances there between the

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place you place the want to go to
and you and how to get there

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and that would be the second thing
to find a route to the place very

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work go to or if you want to plan
your journey so that also needs

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a solution in bloom and this is something
that is on all black problems like

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android and i us or whatever it's called
the apples so always i know use

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it so i don't know the names even
so they all have it they all

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have first solutions for these things integrated
into their voice always so we need something

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like that and also of course in the end
they all these things should need

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that you why that shows you know all these
things roots and maps and everything

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and also to save but you like if you
do your search for route which

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save it for you and later if you
want to access that it should be

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able to give it to you matt very fast
because it's cash and also like

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the places you have search for be
is these so it should be able to

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show it to you very quickly and not use network at all

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so i'll be talking a bit about these
for things that i mentioned and the

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first of the thing is the G location

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we have solution already for that since
two thousand five or six a bunch of

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people mostly from finland for some reason like
others the hundred bridges and you see

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click on and they both of our very much
involved in this project but not

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sure like for the last few years they
are not so involved and they kind

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of created a good solution and it was
the like all of the things that

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it sounded very good ideas of the time
but they ended up making it really

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complicated i actually haven't really worked
on there's you to myself like the old one

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but no

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bastion

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has been working on that and he founded
very complicated so it's like it's

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create some if you guys and then those
api tsar divas if you as are

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implemented by different services and then you will
have to choose the differences services which

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you want like based on if you want G P S R I P address

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or all those things so it's not so
nice and we something better so we

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mainly bust and came up with the idea
of geo clue and your clue to

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completely rewrite it and the main point of this
rewrite is having simplicity and have

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one service one simple service and make it
really the well documented and apps can

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just use that service and they don't need
to hear about or users that means

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a nobody needs to care about different
kinds of like sources of where you get

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to the location information from like
gps or three D or all those so that's

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the main thing that should be simple and
it needs to have privacy so currently

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do you include gives your location
information to all the apps

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and that you although that that's not what
you want you want to have control

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over that so why don't have needs your
location it ask you be ask you

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that you want to share your location
to this particular i or not and then

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when you say yes we do that and we
also save it the or preference

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and then you should have the chance to also
change your preference later for different

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apps

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so this is all coming i already have
actually like a bastion give me a

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design for what you talked that you could
to should look like and i most

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agreed with it so i implemented it and
what previously was on my private you

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get oreos or something but just before the talk
like to our before bastien wanted

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to do you clue repository so now as
you could you and your crew with

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just merged and just you could and the old
stuff just doesn't exist there all

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the court is origin and maybe it releases
and stuff but there's one really is

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already and you can already tried a currently it

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i'll talk about

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the sources a bit so you need a different
sources that i mentioned the for

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location and do you clue is supposed to
use these sources and like tried that

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it's best to get your location as good
as possible so what are the sources

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the other person is gps and it gps assisted
gps so if you have hardware

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which gets very accurate information "'cause" U
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information very accurately so if you have
it and you're is connected to your machine

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running a normal it's

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it's

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the best thing so your we can find your
location and we displayed on that

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i'll talk about maps later

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one

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and then there is life i've missed a but
your location so there is some

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A P eyes like there is gone all
not sorry go will api for this

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and then there is the free so results
light i forgot the name

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almost open wireless i think so it's

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the both the services they did send them
your what which likewise are in range

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and what's the strands of it and they
give you a indication of the location

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don't have this right now we do we have
some patches for do you college

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you who do that but should be your
clue to at this but it's based

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on google and we don't think real get permission
to use their api because it's

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meant specifically for google maps

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so we can't use it more most likely
so we will probably use this open

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like five

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and for privacy concerns as well with
this and they say stuff going on

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and also three G nowadays is three Z modems
they give you location information it's

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not that accurate but it's much better
than the next one i'll talk about so

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it's a maybe really need this and i'll
be working on that currently we only

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have this last one I P based geolocation it's
only usually city level information so

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you can we can only detect your and helsinki
or violent and stuff like that

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and i think it works pretty lively for that is

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so that that's there already and you
clue us so you can at least get

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your C D look at information if
you want to new or up to you

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to do that you should use your clue
already or if you had the previous

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you clue support for that you need
to order to the new api and it

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should

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so once you know where you are the next
step is to of explore the

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syria around you or to find places like
you're going to some country a next

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week you want to know about what's kind of restaurants
out there where you're staying

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and stuff and the place where you're
staying in the exact so for that we

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have something called G accord agility

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who to blame for this once again bust and

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who doesn't know who's busting on here

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good one

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so and you don't know cool stuff
so this is one of things you did

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and recently i've started contributing
to it so one so it's what it does is

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it's something called you coding enter words
you coding geo coding is the process of

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translating

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stringer checks into

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location information like to student long which
you'd mainly and also about like getting more

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details what kind of place it is like where
this that search results that you

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get you also get those with the with this
you could really and rewards you

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according is the opposite of that you
your point in a map in a place

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and you say which what's here

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and then surely words you according you
can find what's the name of this place

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and other actors of the place if it's a restaurant
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and all that stuff

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so we don't have currently that much support
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is but we do have support basic support
for like if it's a city or

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country or that things like that or a point
of interest which could be many

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things

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and we so we have this you're putting in reverse
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you could you live you can already use that

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and one of the things we recently did
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you was using

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i think it's for price we have somehow
and i it's not open it hope

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places it's that that's what it was
using and i order to norman a team

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which is a three service and open service
and you can do whatever you want

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it's open source

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stuff so it's all good

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and it's also a lot more populated then
joe places in general sorry but

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does to say like places are you mostly
talk about like cities are like i

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mean i know there's also like stuff
like i wanna go to this last right

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guy type many am restaurant will give me location
of longitude latitude i also never

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gonna number need to i guess that a pronounce
it i believe open street maps

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has been trying to build some it's open
straight now this nominal thing is from

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open straighten that up there service okay
it's actually the same data beta like a

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same database if you have some something
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okay right so i mean

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how hot it i assume it's really popular
because of street maps but i assume

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that it's like

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that like restaurants i don't like we will
not very populated you can type a

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name a restaurant or some building and you'll
just it'll they are the this also

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find that there's a lot of data and they're
standing i'll talk a bit more

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about the data for alright thank you
know what one of the things that we

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want to be able to do at some point once we get

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once we can access gps is some
a inaccurate souls of location

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then will be able to in the data and
probably data for them you know

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seen

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i think that's very important because
it's data that will end up using

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for some more questions

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well there is a way of using the G P S and cell phones the

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so you exposing you i it's also i doubt so

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you have to connected

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like it's some for that they expose themselves
as the act normal what i'm and

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you can get to the location information through
what a manager this knock and nine

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is one of them okay so i'm hoping
that the new you all i'm about

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to do the same so because they're based
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do what we can hope we can help

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all you can get a dedicated to a team or them

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if you're specifically talking about exporting
gps info from oldham couldn't you do that with

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an application so and get on the phone
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the and weren't however and

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we exported over shape loses

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okay so you're saying that we should
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and then you can if there's interesting do we
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idea okay i think about if i can time out there

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so in the end we need to you want to
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like how do you need to show it
like you need you can get the

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location of the user you can

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i find out place is so how do you showed
all this information so first

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thing is like some plan it's of the library
that was it in by this

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guy big in the beginning here look
at doing we lost this guy to this

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company call apple because i don't know
they don't allow him to work on the

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things related to his work or something that's
actually a lot of companies do that

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they don't allow you to work on open
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doing in their work because it's conflict of interest
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them

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so but before he went away he did
already a lot of good a job

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with this like simple and it's a really
nice api already and we have been

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using it and it's not like guys your
clue that we need to replace it

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because we don't see the point

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so we are working on that as well like
as much as needed although it

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already works pretty well and now this
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it was supposed to be here you'd it's
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come by so

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okay so he's a nice guy and is maintaining
it for us and this election

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one as the just for was saying about
opens treatment so it's uses that an

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is pretty cool because it's has opened
data and it's there is no problem or

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for an essay or anyone's fine that's that the

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well actually they can anyway

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it's user driven

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which means that if you'll find like to find
some information it's not there you

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can go and just put it there if they
have multiple clients not today one

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api but multiple clients for different platform
all the platforms federico where is very is

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not here and you had to go we showing
me on his iphone that they

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have a client for that multiple clients and
you can very easily add information to

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it especially like something small there's like
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restaurant different restaurant is missing and
it so you can very easily add from with

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those us and that is why you know
what the last few years this open

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street map has come a very long way
like there was so much data that

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was missing but now it is it's very
if you play a little data that's

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missing so i'll encourage you guys if
you are just in math and stuff since

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you're here you are just right so please
do contribute if you if you can

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and it's very see easy and simple
is will be will very easy way to

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contribute you can it's a one of them is
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okay a that i so well period was
working on is not stuff the also

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wrote and i call a marilyn it

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the problem it is that wasn't meant
for going on three so the you eyes

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that doesn't look like anything like a going
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work it's it was pretty incomplete so
there was no point of view we using

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that part at least but we are using mission
plan which is the bigger part

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of the of the work and we went for
a new application called max for

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it's the designed specifically for going on three
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we can and can steiner and the second

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and so that's not a nice swedish

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access writable correct right

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i would like to know my

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and andreas was as being the lately a lot
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don't like and he was supposed to present
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was there but that's it was we showed you the talk so

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i think got a not very saying so in the end
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okay and i'm to see this guy from
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that i sorry

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so i don't know there's some weird thing
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work because the designers from bottom board
this summer of course remind much as is

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from their these are working on that and
this guy over there college is also

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living in gotten bargain is the working on something
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not entirely is working to control centre

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actually and there was there was recently
a block in map that it was talking

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got onboard because that's where i was last
time and just put an abatement location

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other than us and it was thing you're not number sorry

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so not us is that working on the grow
some of course project to us

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roots once you know where you are really
ready to find places now you need

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to know to find routes to places

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what we that's is some records there's four
types of fruit right mainly walking

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bicycle car and public transportation there's also
flying chips and stuff but that's the data

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do that huh

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and we have different sources for those things
first this always are and we want

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to use this as much as possible this is
yet another project by opens treatment

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guys and since its ears the database with
the able straight men so it's all

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cool because it's all open it's all
the same guys same forks and we can

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just we can even five bucks and it's just pretty good and

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so when you when you i did data and add more data do it so

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we also contribute this project as well at the same time

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so we will be using that for car at least
that they have call routing

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they should have bicycle but i don't think
they do in this service although in

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the database they have all the data
to do it and it open street map

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you can like render all the like you
can select that's a map type at

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that renders all the cycle routes all
over but that's not what we want we

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want something specific like you want
to know from here to here i want only

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the second week from this business but and
that's not they're not sorry i'm at

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least right now as we as far as we
know so well there's also other

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than this there is country and city
specific routing it the eyes and

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we will be have planned for

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and plug-ins like if it depending on where
you are since we can detect where

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you are so based on that we will
choose the plug in the best plug

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in for you that will not give us the routing
information about or finding rooting

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for your city or at least your country
there is like in at least in

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all the european countries there is that
the it the eyes available and cities as

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well like the big cities that we have
really good have a especially in the

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nordic countries there's really good at the eyes
and very reliable people use them everyday

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so we will be using that and much
yes is working on that so if

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something goes wrong it's a small

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the pinpoint us teams manuel so

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i'm really sorry i can't see

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is there a shortcut to move my

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window to there

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i know but is there a major like

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okay iphone somehow

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put them off there

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can use you

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how we came here

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okay now i am also it's not able

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so as you can see that should you agree
with that knows your location so

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it shows it there and this may basic
right now we just started so don't

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expect much for anything at all

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you can search for places

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all sorts of places that are already cached
so it doesn't take long you on

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this network

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network then

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that there's a there's a fronts i don't know

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okay so and then you can zoom in and
stuff and there is this button

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that takes you right your location

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we are currently is that although

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and excuse me whatever second just

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what the demo something that needs like
not so you can see is the currently

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that but are satellites information is very
limited in this open street map source it's

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it if you zoom in if you aren't us
it's pretty good like it's that

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information i think it's coming from some you
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it's coming on this network so

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someone had a question i can

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yes a thing that i was asking about the one
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sorry what not projection or you see

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okay that explains why the eyes and
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so as you can see

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if we will doing this just as we what
interviews web macaw to we will

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do something like forty ninety or something like that

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but that's

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not something that you need to care about

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it's that's

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that's mostly it

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there's many places by new york

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so as you can see it's pretty good
in for new york at least so

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if you're a new yorker

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not only was a pretty good

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was there any love

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nothing left so

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except for this

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nice picture

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what colour you have a question

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nobody on my can

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okay no questions like a question

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about that you could if you i does it include
other your compass orientation

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which direction you are facing

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is it is seriously haven't plan okay

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it's nudity

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i don't know

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i know i was just for just commenting that
velocity and a construction so variety

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i especially if you can catch that
when you lose your gps between

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you don't like epic

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you was a pi

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in what form like the X M L

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okay in changes

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okay say that

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wait a second i'll just put it on or

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so that's as simple as it is right

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that's it

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and a question

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well

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you get case from a construct that how
do you know that we currently we

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have doubts but yes that's been dreaming about
our entering the vector to sell yes

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it would be good

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but

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not just okay so there's been a lot
of work on "'em" or that there's

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a trend of moving to vector data and actually
running it by themselves from actually

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doing that that's times

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so i've been what you want to the like
math books has been doing in

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this report and that's interesting and something
that i would like to work from if

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i had infinite time this for

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so if someone your mi infinite i'm sure

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i so back and i actually attended a session
on open ads and one thing

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is that i think that some countries that
have issues with people to a there

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like i don't pieces i'm not even in open
office number not which is they

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got the new project that's nine like
this is just that and then you if

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i remember reading it right i had a problem
it google not been places you

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like bring it on C D's and then not
being questions or not is really

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saying that it's focus of all civilians
and on a hard disk or not and

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hasn't how decide you could you know and
not standard either that newt was neck

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and so

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that we will have the resources to go
around and like do those things but

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still one street map doesn't and that's
why as a so this user driven so

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if you're if you want your counter
be in the open street map you have

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yourself going at it there

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like what about hell on a lot of people undocumented
okay would googling around a

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to you know not been places because i'm never going to

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okay

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okay so anyone else know

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okay thanks for coming and appreciating
my swedish accent adam